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Glass bedding HS Precision #5431590 07/17/11
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,068 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,068 Central Louisiana	I just picked up an HS Precision rifle in .240 Wby. HS Precision doesn't bed their stocks, depending on the aluminum blocks to do the job. I haven't yet shot it and am sure it would perform the guaranteed 1/2 MOA. I just couldn't help myself and glass bedded it. The forend now feels stiffer. Before, I observed forearm movement back to the front action screw, now it's to the leading edge of the bedding, approx. 1 1/2" ahead of the action. Shorter fulcrum, less forearm to bend, less over all movement, functionally stiffer. DF

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Re: Glass bedding HS Precision Dirtfarmer #5431672 07/17/11
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 7,504 Lived all over the world H hotsoup Campfire Outfitter
hotsoup Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 7,504 Lived all over the world	back a few years ago i owned 5-6 hs stocks, and mounted them on all my deer/elk rifles. although i thought of skim bedding one or two, i only ended up bedding one, and it didn't shoot any better after the bed job than it did before. i was always more than satisfied with just screwing the barreled action down and shooting. i have never seen a rifle shoot worse after a proper bedding job. good luck with your new rifle. i bet it will be a great shooter.

Re: Glass bedding HS Precision hotsoup #5432107 07/18/11
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,904 Foley, Alabama D davidlea Campfire Tracker
davidlea Campfire Tracker D Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,904 Foley, Alabama	Mine shot better after bedding it, the rifle(in .300WM) had a tendancy to group most shots together and kick one out a bit. The bed job kept the groups together. That being said, I bedded one on a 7rsaum and couldn't tell a great difference-certainly no worse. Golden............

Re: Glass bedding HS Precision davidlea #5432373 07/18/11
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,068 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,068 Central Louisiana	I'm probably gilding the lily, but at least it makes me feel better. I had seen recommendations to torque the action screws on HS stock at levels higher than I usually torque. I've seen 60-70 inch pounds recommended, which is pretty much force. With skim bedding, I could probably get by with a more conventional 35-40 inch pounds. DF

Re: Glass bedding HS Precision Dirtfarmer #5433550 07/18/11
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,904 Foley, Alabama D davidlea Campfire Tracker
davidlea Campfire Tracker D Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,904 Foley, Alabama	Still go 60lbs after bedding, if your bedding job is correct, there will be no problem. Golden............

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Re: Glass bedding HS Precision davidlea #5433987 07/18/11
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,742 Midwest H Horseman Campfire Regular
Horseman Campfire Regular H Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,742 Midwest	I've had two H-S stocks bedded. 7mmSendero SFII and 22-250VS. Neither shot better after bedding. I'd still do it cause H-S leave gaps big enough to hide a cat in all around the receiver. They just look better with bedding.

Re: Glass bedding HS Precision Horseman #5434050 07/18/11
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db102550 Campfire Member D Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 164 Northern New York	I've used H & S stocks for a couple of M700s. My smith told me that there was too much "slop" behind the lug and that it would make a big difference to bed it si I let him. At 100 yards it didn't look a bit different but at 300 yards it was about 1 and 1/2 inches better.

Re: Glass bedding HS Precision db102550 #5434070 07/18/11
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 O Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger
Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383	My gunsmith friend told me that correct torque is only necessary on an HS or B&C medalist when it is not skim bedded.

Re: Glass bedding HS Precision Oldelkhunter #5434327 07/18/11
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 566 Central Louisiana O overmax Campfire Regular
overmax Campfire Regular O Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 566 Central Louisiana	My hs stock has been bedded and it helped. I torque it to 65 lbs.

Re: Glass bedding HS Precision overmax #5434730 07/18/11
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OP Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,068 Central Louisiana	Overmax, thank you and davidlea for the torque info. I'll up my torque accordingly. DF

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Re: Glass bedding HS Precision Dirtfarmer #5435248 07/19/11
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,125 S.W. Wis. aalf Campfire Ranger
aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,125 S.W. Wis.	In a properly bedded gun, torque is a non issue. The screws are there only to hold the parts together. If you have to use the screws for a tuning aid, you best re-visit your bedding.

Re: Glass bedding HS Precision aalf #5435314 07/19/11
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,068 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,068 Central Louisiana	The bedding looks great. I've done a bunch of that type work. The action tightens down to a solid end point with no movement, as one would expect from a HS stock with or without bedding. I wrote earlier about the relative increase in forend stiffness by glassing the barrel 1 1/2" ahead of the receiver. Instead of bending all the way back to the action, the forend now bends from 1 1/2" ahead of the receiver, a shorter fulcrum. So, you think that with a good bedding job, the torque is less of an issue? That would make sense to me, as we usually use 35 inch pounds or so on pillared and glassed stocks. But, I've always heard and read that the HS stocks should be torqued 60-65 inch pounds. DF

Re: Glass bedding HS Precision Dirtfarmer #5435339 07/19/11
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Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383	Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer The bedding looks great. I've done a bunch of that type work. The action tightens down to a solid end point with no movement, as one would expect from a HS stock with or without bedding. I wrote earlier about the relative increase in forend stiffness by glassing the barrel 1 1/2" ahead of the receiver. Instead of bending all the way back to the action, the forend now bends from 1 1/2" ahead of the receiver, a shorter fulcrum. So, you think that with a good bedding job, the torque is less of an issue? That would make sense to me, as we usually use 35 inch pounds or so on pillared and glassed stocks. But, I've always heard and read that the HS stocks should be torqued 60-65 inch pounds. DF By torquing an "unbedded" stock you get that bedding plate to flex enough to tighten up the fit to the action. If you skim bed it that point is moot.

Re: Glass bedding HS Precision Oldelkhunter #5435518 07/19/11
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Reloader7RM Campfire Tracker R Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,132 NW La.	DF, it dang sure aint going to hurt anything. I'm running several HS stocks, some bedded and some not. They seem to shoot well either way. I had one that shot better afterwards, but most all of them have shot just dropping them in. You can feel the movement on the bbl if the fit is bad. Let us know how the new rig shoots. That's a very interesting cart IMO. Good Luck loder

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