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What works best on 30 to 100 yard lung shots that results in minimum run? Last year, I used a 150 Sierra FN at 2300fps. On a large doe 50 yard broadside shot, entrance was tight behind the front leg about half way up. The bullet left a small exit hole, about the size of a pencil. The doe trotted away about 30 yards and stood on the other side of another doe, preventing a second shot. She then moved out of sight. I found her within a few minutes and had to shoot her again as she tried to run off. Both shots were right to left through the lungs just behind the front leg. Only one bullet exited. I assume that the first one did and the one from 30 feet didn't. There was massive damage to the lungs but no way to tell which bullet did what. I've used many calibers but this was the first time for the 30-30. Does it have enough velocity to ever work as well as say a 7mm08 or 308? I do like to have two holes, in case tracking is necessary.

What have you experienced with the 30-30? I'm about ready to go back to using my favorite 7mm08 and call it a day!

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In a cup and core bullet, I like the Hornady's. If I wanted more, I would load Nosler Partitions.

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I'm an "others" but have used the .30-30 on dozens of deer and pigs at those ranges. Winchester power points have never failed to work well for me, and I aim for the heart/lung.

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Leon and Ella,

What bullet weights are you using?

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Ella that about somes it up also Federals are also good.

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If both lungs were smacked, a few seconds more you would have found a dead one. Use a 170 in your dirty 30 if you want thru and thru's at that close of range.....Russ

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Might have just been a fluke- I have seen about 50 or 60 deer (and a few elk) shot with Ballistic Tips in a 270 and they all died quickly except two deer- Both deer were shot where you shot that doe. One, a whitetail doe, ran around the field for what seemed like forever before she tipped over. Her vitals looked like blood sausage. The other, a forkhorn mule deer, took three hits in the chest and his only reaction was to turn and present the other side of his hide to us. Finally he dropped, and I think we shot him again in the neck.
Never shot a deer with a 30/30 but have used the 32 Special, it's twin on a few deer and it was deadly with 170 grain Hornadys.

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I also think it was a fluke most likely. I have killed several deer with the 30-30 and I like 150 grain bullets in the old soft nose but my last few have been killed with the Hornady Leverevolution which have given some great results.


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I've killed alot of deer with the .30-30. Used 150 and 170 core-lokts, 170 Silvertips, 170 Fedral power shok's and 170 power points. All kill deer just about as dead as they're gonna get. The 170's do seem to penetrate a bit better and have always exited on broadside shots for me, even when one or both shoulders are hit. Lung shot deer typically run 40-60 yards and fall over dead with any of them.

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I've used the old Winchester 150gr. Silvertips the most and have had great luck with them.


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"Leon and Ella,

What bullet weights are you using?"

I lean towards the 170's but only because they shoot more accurately in my old Glenfield. I've used 150's as well and plan to use some this year as I bought a box of that weight by mistake. I've never noticed any meaningful difference.

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My son favors 150 power points in his .30-30 { best accuracy} and we've recovered quite a few from his deer. They definitely don't penetrate as well as the 170's.

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When I was loading a lot for a couple 30-30's I used the 170 Interlock bullets with really good success on deer.

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Believe it or not, I've had one cup-and-core 150-grain roundnose factory bullet come apart on a doe whitetail's shoulder and fail to penetrate the chest cavity. Ever since I've used 170-grain Nosler Partitions, and they tend to put deer down pretty darn quickly, while always penetrating. This is because the front core of Partitions is a very soft lead alloy, and when combined with the round-nose it really opens nicely.

The same bullet really puts the hurt on woods deer when loaded in the .300 Savage.


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Originally Posted by RugerM77270
I also think it was a fluke most likely. I have killed several deer with the 30-30 and I like 150 grain bullets in the old soft nose but my last few have been killed with the Hornady Leverevolution which have given some great results.


I'm planning to try the Hornady 160 FlexTip this year if I use the 30-30. Did the FTX exit on your shots? Are you getting better results than with C&C bullets?

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Believe it or not, I've had one cup-and-core 150-grain roundnose factory bullet come apart on a doe whitetail's shoulder and fail to penetrate the chest cavity. Ever since I've used 170-grain Nosler Partitions, and they tend to put deer down pretty darn quickly, while always penetrating. This is because the front core of Partitions is a very soft lead alloy, and when combined with the round-nose it really opens nicely.

The same bullet really puts the hurt on woods deer when loaded in the .300 Savage.


JB, that brings up a question.....if a particular bullet fails to perform as expected once, do you ever trust it again? Several people have said my experience may have just been a fluke. I thought that may have been the case too but it doesn't inspire confidence! Lack of penetration wasn't my problem. You wouldn't care to identify that bullet would you?

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The 170 grain Core-Lokt Hollow Point has been wicked.

The Barnes X for the .30-30 is just nasty on deer.




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Originally Posted by AnsonRogers
What works best on 30 to 100 yard lung shots that results in minimum run? Last year, I used a 150 Sierra FN at 2300fps. On a large doe 50 yard broadside shot, entrance was tight behind the front leg about half way up. The bullet left a small exit hole, about the size of a pencil. The doe trotted away about 30 yards and stood on the other side of another doe, preventing a second shot. She then moved out of sight. I found her within a few minutes and had to shoot her again as she tried to run off. Both shots were right to left through the lungs just behind the front leg. Only one bullet exited. I assume that the first one did and the one from 30 feet didn't. There was massive damage to the lungs but no way to tell which bullet did what. I've used many calibers but this was the first time for the 30-30. Does it have enough velocity to ever work as well as say a 7mm08 or 308? I do like to have two holes, in case tracking is necessary.

What have you experienced with the 30-30? I'm about ready to go back to using my favorite 7mm08 and call it a day!




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Originally Posted by Ella
"Leon and Ella,

What bullet weights are you using?"

I lean towards the 170's but only because they shoot more accurately in my old Glenfield. I've used 150's as well and plan to use some this year as I bought a box of that weight by mistake. I've never noticed any meaningful difference.

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The Partition only comes in 170 and I prefer the better accuracy of the 170 Hornady also.

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170 grain Core-Lokt. Don't waste money on exotic bullets.


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