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I also think it was a fluke most likely. I have killed several deer with the 30-30 and I like 150 grain bullets in the old soft nose but my last few have been killed with the Hornady Leverevolution which have given some great results.


I'm planning to try the Hornady 160 FlexTip this year if I use the 30-30. Did the FTX exit on your shots? Are you getting better results than with C&C bullets?

I have shot 4 deer and one hog with the Flextip only one didn't exit and it was shot into a quartering to #170 eight point at 100 yards. The bullet penetrated through the shoulder and almost 24 inches of deer and was under the hide at the last rib.


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One of my early efforts with the Partition, a 150 in a 308 Win, left me questioning the bullet. Turned out the deer had no lungs to breathe with and no cage to contain and inflate the lungs, but it still ran. Oh, and it was bleeding out from the first of two shots, a shot that shattered the liver.

In the 30-30 I load the 170 Corelokt. It won't come apart unless you hit bones on the order of moose vertebrae, and that means things are going to fall. I had a lighter bullet fail to find the opposite side of a river otter once. The otter died right there, but having a bullet come apart and be stopped by an otter was not confidence instilling.


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Remington Core-Lokt!!!!

You do not need Premiums for 30-30 speeds...Save yourself some bucks and do as the old timers did and do.


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My rifle just happens to like the Hornady 170 FP, so that's what I load.

Just about any of the bullets for a .30-30 are going to (terminally) perform well. Find the one your rifle likes and get as many as you can.

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I buy bulk 150gr Rem core-lokts for my 30-30. Never fails to kill.

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I watched my father kill a lot of deer with a 30-30 and mostly core-lokt bullets over a lot of years. They died, but I was never all that impressed with them.

I tried the LeverEvolution 160s a couple years ago and bounced on off a rib without slowing the deer down, something I have seen happen with even 180 grain 30-06s.

I have never seen a Barnes not penetrate in a very straight line or bounce off bone in what amounts to a respectable number of deer now. So, I am going to try the Barnes 150 TSXs in mine this year. They open well at even reduced velocity (1600 FPS). I get 2400 FPS and itty-bitty groups using the LeverEvolution powder (35.5 grains). I don't see them not making two holes, and I don't see them deflecting off bone. At that speed they ought to tear up Bambi's internals.

I might know more come December, but I can't see them not working better.

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Hornandy 150 RN. Works great, shoots accurately, costs little. What more do you need?


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I've never witnessed a bullet "bounce" off an animal, but I have read about it a lot on the internet.

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I reload the Ballistic Tip 125 grain for my Savage .30-30/12 guage and every deer hit so far has dropped to the shot. I was surprised that at 218 yards mthe bullet performed perfectly, and the accuracy ot the ballistic tips is phenomenal.

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Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
I buy bulk 150gr Rem core-lokts for my 30-30. Never fails to kill.

Last years deer:
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Hmmm. I am surprised that nobody mentioned Speer Hot Cores (now deep curl I guess). That's what I've used in my 30-30 loads for over 20 years. I like 170's for accuracy and penetration. Have worked very well for me.

I find that heart/lung shot deer almost always run 50-100 yards. I'm not a neck shooter and would rather have the short run and know that I nailed the deer.

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Thanks to everyone for your input. Sounds like each bullet and weight has it's followers and most people are happy with the 30-30 on deer.

I'll probably use one again this fall, most likely with the Hornady 160 FTX. After that, a 170 grain, most likely.

Remember when Remington Core Lokts were cheap? What happened? Now they are often times more expensive than most of the other brands. They sure aren't finished as well or as consistent in length. I used hundreds of them for Cowboy Silhouette but never hunted with a 30-30 then.

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Hornady 150 RN or 170 FP both make mush out of deer's innards. Rem Core-lokts work well also. Others may equal but few surpass.


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I don't bother reloading for my .30-30 anymore. Not when 170 gr core-lokt factory loads can be bought for 14.99 a box at Gander Mountain and group under 1.5" for 3 shots at 100 yds..

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Time it right, and you can get them for 1/2 that price.




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I'd sure like to see a bullet bounce off a rib,especially a 30-06 180 gr.


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I've never seen it either and I've busted a helluva lot of deer ribs with .30-30 bullets.

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Originally Posted by VAnimrod
Time it right, and you can get them for 1/2 that price.
Cheapest I saw them on sale for last season was 11.99 a box. I might give those core-lokt HP's a try this year if I can find any. I know I've seen them either at Dick's or GM but can't remember which.

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Gander has the HPs.

Here's what we found.

The standard Core-Lokts worked superbly well on big deer, and on raking shots. But on smaller deer, and those broadside shots that slip between ribs, well, sometimes the performance wasn't what we wanted.

The 170 C-L HPs, removed those "problems". They simply deck stuff, regardless of angle or "thickness".




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Originally Posted by Bay_Dog
I've never witnessed a bullet "bounce" off an animal, but I have read about it a lot on the internet.


Perhaps when you grow up you'll come to understand that bullets and balls don't always bounce back the same way the came. Mostly, it looks more like an incidence and reflection being more equal.

That's pretty much what happened with the LeverEvolution bullet. The bullet hit the deer at an angle that should have run in down in and through the chest and out just in front of the opposite shoulder, but instead it bounced off the rib and went up and out the top through the chops just back of the opposite shoulder.

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