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#5679850 - 10/04/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: Swampman700]  
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Most of us are way past implying that you're an azz shooting, cart riding geriatric who can't age a deer. Further, nobody (you being the exception) is going to argue you're not a troll. CD and I may not agree on everything, but he's damn sure not a liar. You, OTOH....

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#5680009 - 10/04/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: Swampman700]  
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Originally Posted by Swampman700
...when you know full well why I'm here.


I really don't know, Swampy, why you're here.

Need some help with that one.

DF

#5680187 - 10/04/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: Dirtfarmer]  
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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by Swampman700
...when you know full well why I'm here.


I really don't know, Swampy, why you're here.

Need some help with that one.

DF



Prolly the best question ever posed to you on here Swampy!!!

I think you are the novice here!









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#5680235 - 10/04/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: Swampman700]  
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Originally Posted by Swampman700
Originally Posted by rahtreelimbs
The Novice!!!


Amen

He's a liar....



How can I be a liar when I readily admit to being a novice???


Just like a big ass whiner......

you're a liar........

you're a liar........

you're a liar........

sound like a kid who got his lunch money stolen!

Can't you come up with anything better than that???









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#5681192 - 10/05/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: rahtreelimbs]  
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You act like you're about 10 years old. Nothing you post makes any sense. That's why you'll always be a novice. Any you're just one of the reason's I'm here.


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#5682819 - 10/05/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: Swampman700]  
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Originally Posted by Swampman700
You act like you're about 10 years old. Nothing you post makes any sense. That's why you'll always be a novice. Any you're just one of the reason's I'm here.



Just wish you could come up with better answers!









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#5683076 - 10/05/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: rahtreelimbs]  
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Wasn't it in the movie "Magnum Force" that Clint said, "A man's got to know his limitations." Don't expect much, Rich. wink


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#5683115 - 10/05/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: the_shootist]  
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Originally Posted by the_shootist
Wasn't it in the movie "Magnum Force" that Clint said, "A man's got to know his limitations." Don't expect much, Rich. wink


I don't Keith!!!


Swampy needs no negative support from anyone here.........his posts state the obvious about him!!!









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#5683464 - 10/05/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: rahtreelimbs]  
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Yep, that I'm always right. And, you're not experienced enough to know that.


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#5683691 - 10/05/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: Swampman700]  
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Originally Posted by Swampman700
Yep, that I'm always right. And, you're not experienced enough to know that.



Claiming you are always right just goes to show what a little person you are and the lack of manhood you have.


A real man owns up to his own mistakes, accepts criticism and never claims to be right all the time.


Do I possess all these..............no..............but I admit that and that is a starting point!!!









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#5689971 - 10/07/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: NH K9]  
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Originally Posted by NH K9
Originally Posted by Swampman700
I don't own a golf cart. I don't shoot from cars, trucks, carts, etc. I leave that to you guys.


Can't so much as lean a loaded firearm on a vehicle here and the other states that I hunt in. Did you steal the golf cart you azz shot that deer from or did it belong to one of your geriatric "friends"?

Laffin'

George

ETA: Sorry CD but the rain is hammering here, it's been a long few weeks at work, and I need a good laugh.


No problem .West Texas Mule Deer hunting is ALL about vehicles as a general rule :

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You'll notice that the "road" ain't much!

We do plenty of walking,climbing, and glassing , but you can't even SEE a deer out on the flats unless you can get your head above the cactus and brush.


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#5695126 - 10/09/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: curdog4570]  
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Have you tried the Hornady 265 JSP's.?

They shoot well out of my 444. I can sometimes get 3 under an inch and 5 will almost always go about 1.5". Plenty good for what I need.

Here's what mine likes.

Hornady Case
Remington 9 1/2 Primers
Hornady 265 JSP
42.5 gr. IMR 4198
COL 2.565
Lee Factory Crimped

These Avg 2075 from my rifle.

#5696049 - 10/09/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: Swampman700]  
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Originally Posted by Swampman700
Yep, that I'm always right. And, you're not experienced enough to know that.


It doesn't take a world of experience to know that your ratio of right/wrong is not that high.

That's an easy diagnosis, PhD not necessary.

DF

#5821922 - 11/17/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: curdog4570]  
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I'll soon find out what the 320 CP's will do to a hog."

Still haven't shot a hog with it since we seem to have a few good bucks in my hunting pasture this year.But........ I'm tearing apart the 320 CP loads with 40 gr of 4198.

Because........

Yesterday morning my S.I.L. was complaining because he had missed a hog with his 7 Mag the day before and was concerned his scope had come un-done.The only extra rifle I had at camp was this 444 , so I told him he could use it out of a little pop-up blind I had put down on a creek crossing where there were some big deer sign.

He had barely settled in when a hot doe brought a really nice eight point to within 60 yards of the blind.He shot him in the chest and the buck just stood there,so he shot him again in the shoulder and he went down.As he was still kicking , so Jason put one in his neck.It's his best deer yet and he is excited.Probably score 125 which ain't bad for an eight point.

Not a single bullet of the three exited.

I want an exit hole on a hog and this load ain't gonna cut it.

It's kinda funny , since hogs are usually my "test medium" for deer size bullets ,but this time it worked backwards!

I'm gonna up them two grains and try for a tighter crimp,and check 'em out on a hog.



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#5823007 - 11/18/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: curdog4570]  
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Originally Posted by curdog4570
Not a single bullet of the three exited.

I want an exit hole on a hog and this load ain't gonna cut it.

It's kinda funny , since hogs are usually my "test medium" for deer size bullets ,but this time it worked backwards!

I'm gonna up them two grains and try for a tighter crimp,and check 'em out on a hog.


Pushing them faster is gonna help?


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#6226105 - 02/26/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: EvilTwin]  
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Originally Posted by EvilTwin
Bullets might be TOO hard. Is it microgroove?? SIZING critical for performance from microgroove barrels.
My old 1980 Model with the Micro Groove has ALWAYS been a tack driver...with whatever you feed it..

as I have seen with other 444 owners, that have poor groups...

most of the time it is the shooter, jerking when they pull the trigger, afraid of the recoil...


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#6226122 - 02/26/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: Swampman700]  
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I love the 444... so I think cool!,. an 8 page thread...

instead of that, I find not 8 pages on the 444.. I find 7 pages of what an butthead a batch of people think Swampy is..

mingled with 7 pages of Swampy denying it, but providing positive proof to the contrary....

another thread wrecked... and then the wrecker denies he's a troll.... whistle


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#6245928 - 03/02/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: Seafire]  
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Mine's the guide gun in 444 and it's my bear gun, hits where I want and does the job. I shot a buck this year at about 80 yards and went thru both shoulders.


I hunt the leopard spotted bear dogs.
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#6246093 - 03/02/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: FlyboyFlem]  
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Originally Posted by FlyboyFlem
You say "new" as in brand new latest production run or just a new older rifle? I had an old one in the late 70's [Micro groove] which shot very well even with cast bullets 250gr Keith to be exact.My newer one which has a Ballard barrel shoots lights out with anything I've run through it so far.Try a Hornady 265gr SP and 45 grs of 4198./.just can't believe this won't work for you.Maybe bench shooting would be a tad better and more accurate than out the window of the truck..you might try that. smile


I shot the 265's with a max load of 4198, 1 1/2" groups at 100 yards.

#6356703 - 03/31/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: EvilTwin]  
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You are asking the right questions.


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#6366483 - 04/03/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: ppine]  
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Actually, I think that my marlin liked 1.0g over max load of 4198 listed in the old lyman #46 reloading manual.

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