Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles A Girl, An Elk, A 243 Win/105VLD and 688yds makes elk steaks

Lookie here boys, fresh meat...








Merry Xmas???

The elk died.

End of discussion.

I wish I had some of the meat.

JM

+1. Not knowing her, and not being there to see what transpired, people should be cautious about discounting anything or jumping to conclusions. Especially when they're considering accusations of "unethical" conduct.

But caution doesn't seem to figure in on threads like this.

What, none of you guys have ever had a partner or a guide range a shot for you??? Seriously? She did a good job with the shot.

Read the whole thread and these 3 thoughts came to mind 1.damned good job of spotting and coaching JB 2. congrats to the gal for her success 3. sure wish I could a met a gal like that 20 years ago.Finally to the detractors of this thread sure hope your next life is better. Magnum Man

Magnum Man,
as I see it the only difference between big stick and you is the side of the argument he was on. Both of you avoid addressing a posters position to win/try to win style points.

The shooter made a good shot, sure. But isn't the purpose behind the video to demonstrate that anyone with jb's system and jb setting up the shot can do the same thing?

the post show that the shooter is a hunter, and may have been the one to scout the elk. The post fail to state whether she could get closer that 688 yards.

Life is great, little more snow this year than last by this same time. Makes me happy. Been shooting any LR? I have been shooting out to 500 at my range. We should go bust some rocks.

1) How do you know what the poster's purpose was, without asking? Why don't you ask him? Personally, I don't care what his purpose was, as he is a sponsor on this website and as such should expect that he can do a little promotion now and again. I get some value out of videos like these, because they show what is possible with the right experience and skills. Some say an elk at 600+ yards with a .243 is pushing the envelope, and that may be true. But the video shows that it can be done, and to me, that is a good data point. And no, it doesn't mean that I'm gonna run out and try to emulate it.

2) Whether the hunter could get closer is really none of your concern, unless you want to say that everyone should share your same ethic on getting closer vs. making a long shot. Who are you to say that?

40O
The first three sentences of this thread:
Short video of elk hunt from this weekend. These elk have been hunted all fall and are pretty wary.

This was the third time we setup on the herd and the first chance she had for a shot.

That was very nice, I bet she was pretty jazzed up for several days after making that shot. I'd like to put that scope on my 240 wby.

Good Job, John!!!

the very first post-


Who cares if he is trying to sell something. I enjoy the superbowl ads even remember a few but pretty sure none have convinced me to go buy their crap!

What hours work best for you to man the how far is too far hotline?

Here in Arizona it is the liberals that support rights without responsibility and the conservatives who hold that rights go hand in hand with responsibility. On the issue of hunting, liberals and conservatives often come across as hypocrites � Liberals who normally support all �lifestyle� choice decrying those who consider hunting a part of our life and Conservatives supporting any type of �hunting� even if it fails to demonstrate any of the �responsibility� we expect and demand for the exercise of rights in other areas.

As far as who I am to take a position, I�m one of the people that actually go to game and fish meetings when something is on the table I feel strongly about. Canned hunts, scouting from an airplane and other things I oppose I speak out about.

So, what do you hunters thing about the business that set up a remote controlled rifle with a camera on top that could be controlled from someone over the internet? Boy, can you imagine? Someone in China hits the space bar firing a rifle on the other side of the World!!!!! Now that�s long range keyboarding�I mean hunting�I mean shooting�.

I started my post by saying that the short-range or long-range shooting is irrelevant. Did you miss that part? It was the first sentence, right at the beginning. Went something like this �I see the issue Short-range shooting or long-range shooting as irrelevant."

Yawn.

As far as remote controlled rifles, that comparison is absurd. Remote-controlled rifles violate the basic tenets of firearms safety since the shooter isn't present and can't know what lies beyond the target.

As far as liberals/conservatives, from where I sit, the more relevant point is that liberals think there should be limits on things like how far one should shoot at game animals, etc., and conservatives would say that if the shooter can reliably make the shot then it's nobody else's business how far the shot is.

"Taking responsibility" means not taking a shot that's beyond your limitations, and by definition there cannot be one "responsible distance" that fits all. Who are you to argue with that, or to tell people what their own responsible distance is?

LMAO, best line so far.

1 question for John Burns.




Have you EVER lost/not recovered a wounded animal while filming these long-range shots???....be HONEST!


To me the real thrill of hunting is how CLOSE you can get to an animal and ethically harvest it....long-range sniping of animals seems to fit the bill for either 1 of 2 style of hunters....The Lazy....or inept...which one are U?

The greatest hunters are the ones that take game the closet....with primitive weapons....not from extreme ranges....I find your videos along with Best of the West repugnant.

How did this go from long range hunting ethics to robotic rifles?


[bleep] I love this site. Just need to argue about religion for 7 pages then we can wrap this abortion up.

And yet another idiot imposes his own ignorant opinion on the rest of us.

Check out corey006 post here...

He's shopping long range scopes then makes the remark above??

No, the greatest hunters are those that can do both, as well as knock down birds with a shotgun.

As far a wounding an animal, and whether one needs to get close or not, one of the foremost experts (TJ Conrads) on bowhunting with traditional bows, the epitome of your hallowed primitive weapons, says that a traditional bowhunter's maximimum range is the range at which that bowhunter can reliably place an arrow in the vitals 8 out of 10 times. I have no idea what's J. Burn's failure rate is, but I'd be willing to bet it's less than 20%.