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Ran across a friend that has a 1909 Argentine Mauser action that is in fantastic shape. He will let me have it for $200. I am wondering if I would be better off going this route to get my 9.3x62mm Mauser rifle?
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The cool factor would be very high as would the cost. Lotsa mods to do. That being said if you can swing it and want it, I'd be the last to say no way. Have done the full custom route and tis fun.
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The Ruger is ready built 'cept for the few changes we discussed.
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The Ruger is ready built 'cept for the few changes we discussed. Very true! 1909 has cooooool factor, have two of them that I a doing builds on.
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I have had M70's since the 50's and a few others as well like a P17, 99's and recently a 1909 Argentine that someone spent big bucks on. The stock alone on it makes it the nicest sporter that I have. While there is a small cool factor in looking at "DWM" on the side of an action the M70's are better in every way for me. I came across this 'Argy' near the end of my rifle life. Its just as well as they are no big deal. Let someone else convert one and IF it comes out right buy it cheap. I was lucky the action choice thing turned out the way it did for me. To put it another way I am really glad I don't have a safe full of or a battery of 1909's. I am really glad they are pre 64 M70's. The 1909
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A 9.3X62. needs to built on a M98! It just fits it's history. I built my custom 9.3X62 with a 1909 Argentine action. If feeds smooth and solid. The majority of my rifles are built on Mauser actions.
If it's all original ( no holes drilled and the original bottom metal) it sounds like a good deal.
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Yep. Just something about the metal/heat treating and overall feel that no modern factory rifle can duplicate. About the best I can say is the "snicks" and "clunks" from metal to metal on a 1909 are mucho different than a new Ruger or any Remchester. You may think I'm daft, but I don't think so.
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Yep. Just something about the metal/heat treating and overall feel that no modern factory rifle can duplicate. About the best I can say is the "snicks" and "clunks" from metal to metal on a 1909 are mucho different than a new Ruger or any Remchester. You may think I'm daft, but I don't think so. Now this is where we disagree. I find the old Mauser actions to be soft and to have a heavier bolt lift when the pin is down for instance. I just don't like how they are more difficult to move the bolt back the forth either. What seems to be harder steel that the M70's have been made from works so quick and easy for me. Those mausers need a bolt to be welded on too. To each his own. Besides they were only made in ww 2 germany and the Winchesters were made right here in the United States of America!
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Yeah, you must be right. Guess that's the reason most every bolt action on the planet is based off PPM's design. He must've be a 'tard. Oh wait...............
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My 9.3X62 is a Husqvarna built on an FN commercial 98 action. I think it works well but I would like to have one of the Rugers too! The 1909 I think would make a great one as well!
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I have had two mint '09 for some years just tearing at me to get on with them.
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Yep. Just something about the metal/heat treating and overall feel that no modern factory rifle can duplicate. About the best I can say is the "snicks" and "clunks" from metal to metal on a 1909 are mucho different than a new Ruger or any Remchester.
As Wayne & Garth used to say, "scha-WING"! A 9,3x62 in an Argentine '09, no matter what the realists may say re: cost, has gravitas in spades.
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I have had two mint '09 for some years just tearing at me to get on with them. You might just as well send me one. No sense letting them sit around and get moldy and dusty and stuff like that there.
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Who would you send it too for barreling and addition of sights?
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Yep. Just something about the metal/heat treating and overall feel that no modern factory rifle can duplicate. About the best I can say is the "snicks" and "clunks" from metal to metal on a 1909 are mucho different than a new Ruger or any Remchester. You may think I'm daft, but I don't think so. Oh, Yeah! Karnis I agree with you.....if you got it, toss the money at the Argentine.Once you had a finely finished Mauser,some other stuff feels like rubble.
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Who would you send it too for barreling and addition of sights? http://www.mccabeguns.com/I would send it to Mike McCabe if it were mine. Bob
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A 9.3X62. needs to built on a M98! It just fits it's history. I built my custom 9.3X62 with a 1909 Argentine action. If feeds smooth and solid. The majority of my rifles are built on Mauser actions.
If it's all original ( no holes drilled and the original bottom metal) it sounds like a good deal.
Terry I would agree but also might look at having the action heat treated. I had a 1909 done by PacMet and I think it adds strength to the action. ddj
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Yep. Just something about the metal/heat treating and overall feel that no modern factory rifle can duplicate. About the best I can say is the "snicks" and "clunks" from metal to metal on a 1909 are mucho different than a new Ruger or any Remchester. You may think I'm daft, but I don't think so. Oh, Yeah! Karnis I agree with you.....if you got it, toss the money at the Argentine.Once you had a finely finished Mauser,some other stuff feels like rubble. I just spent some time handling various bolt action rifles. I worked the bolts, dry fired them and worked them again from the shoulder. All of them were very good. When I am getting ready to go hunting I might take a different rifle each time. Many times its a Kimber as well. The variety of it is interesting. I go hunting for a few hours a day about three or more times a week. I like all of the rifles! Right now a pet is the Brno 21h that has a M70 type safety on it. Those are a small ring action as you know. But they are all good. Of them the DWM 1909 mauser is the slowest to work. It seems its metal is soft and it drags some as compared to the others. If I were to pick any action to have an fine custom built for hunting it might be one of those Brno 21h's or 22f actions. They have that stippled receiver ring and others have double square bridges. The thing is that its natural for someone who has had mechanical experience to get a rifle and keep it going. Those old 'pre' factory rifles were made to use by us.
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Who would you send it too for barreling and addition of sights? http://www.mccabeguns.com/I would send it to Mike McCabe if it were mine. Bob I have two actions with Mike as I type. He is reworking a commercial Mauser in .300H&H and is building a .350 Rigby on a....... wait for it..... 1909! I have another 1909 that will be a switch barrel and Mike will be doing it as well.
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