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59.5 grains of RL-22 gets me 2685 fps with winchester large rife primers. Other loads have broken 2700, but this load groups well. My rifle is a NULA with a 24 inch barrel.
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Cool thread! 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Cool thread! Agreed! And, a fantastic do it all bullet. I have been blessed to kill more than a few elk with this bullet over the years, it just flat hammers'em.
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2700 seems a bit stout to me, not saying it can't be done (obviously, since it's being done).
How much "deader" will 2700fps kill something, over the same bullet at 2600 (or even 2500)??
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2700 seems a bit stout to me, not saying it can't be done (obviously, since it's being done).
How much "deader" will 2700fps kill something, over the same bullet at 2600 (or even 2500)?? For me, I was looking for a good shooting load not necessarily a " fast one "
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I havent seen 2700 with a 200 in my 30-06's..But have seen 2800 with a 225 thru my whelen, go figure.
Altho it didnt seem to be to hot of load, i wasnt comfortable with it and backed it off a little.
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Mark,
I used the 200 Partition for many years in the .30-06, but not too much for a few years now as I pretty much know what it will do, so have tried other stuff (pretty much what gun writers do). That said, I started loading the 200 Partition in the mid-1970's when it was a "semi-spitzer," with a relief groove, and have loaded the spitzer model since the late 70's in a bunch of rifles. Here's my data for various rifles:
Ruger 77 22"/ 60-H4831/ 200 Partition/ 2770 (1984)
" 61-R22 /200 Speer/ 2658 (1988)
FN Mauser 20"/60-H4831/ 200 Part./ 2659 (1989)
NULA M24 24" /59-H4831SC/ 200 Part./ 2690 (1995)
VZ24/E.R. Shaw 22"/ 59-H4831SC/ 200 Part./ 2667 (2002)
Rem. 700 ADL 22"/ 59-H4831SC/ 200 Part./ 2632 (2002)
Sedgely 24"/ 200 Lapua RNSP factory/ 2625 (2003)
Sauer 303 24"/ 200 Lapua RNSP factory/ 2677 (2010)
None of the above loads loosened primer pockets, and were recorded on various chronographs.
In recent years I've done most of my .30-06 loading with 180's and Ramshot Hunter. 58.0 grains with various 180's has gotten anywhere from 2750 in one 22" barrel to the high 2800's in my 24" NULA. Velocity depends a lot on the bullet and rifle. As an example, the Sierra GameKing has gotten anything from 2750 to 2826, depending on the rifle.
My guess is that Chet's load of 58.5 grains of Hunter would be a good one to try. Ramshot lists 57.7 as maximum with the 200 AccuBond, at a little less than 60,000 psi. My guess is that Chet's load with the 200 Partition would be under 65,000 psi, and get around 2700 from a 24" barrel.
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200 AB
Win case
Win primer
RL 17 56.0 = 2,700 mv out of 22" barrel
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I posted this on the "Elk Hunting" thread but will repeat it here.
I was at the range today with the following load:
58.5gr H4831SC, Fed 210, WW brass, 200gr. NP @ .030" off.
With the 24" barrel on my Kimber 84L I got a 17 string average of 2575fps. The groups were just over MOA and just over 2MOA at 200 yards. It was a little spunky off the bench in comparison to the 130's and 150's out of two .270's.
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I did pretty much the same thing but I was launching 175 gr 7mm Bullets out of a 7mm Remington Mag. Pretty much the same thing, I was loading old surplus 4831 at the time and as far as I could tell MV was something in the rage of 2800 to 2900 fps. The 60 or so head of plains game I shot with that load in that 700 didn't seem to care a wit in Kenya 1971. My guess is that You would not be able to tell the difference either with 200 gr bullets out of an 06. It seems odd that Federal dose not load 200 gr Noslers in the 06 or 175 gr Partitions in the 7mm RM. I guess it would not sell very well.
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What kind of pressure are we talking here that yields 9 or 10 loads per case?
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Or, one could ask what kind of pressure are we talking that allows for 2-3 rounds per case...  Honestly, most of my loads will allow for the cases to be loaded 9-10 times. Do you feel that's abbynormal? Dober
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Mark
I'm lookin' the loads over myself.
Haven't seen any at 2700 I'd shoot..too much pressure, to suit me.
Will probably go with 2650 max. Should be around 59-60k
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Great thread guys. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x401/chiefbsa/Thumbs20Up.gif)
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SU-I see it a bit differently,if a primer pockets only lasting 2 rounds and was accurate I wouldn't feel comfy with it. 4 me it'd be over the top hot for this kid and put me a bit out of my comfort zone.
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I think if you try RL17, or RL22 you will make your speed goal, without hitting excessive pressure.
Some of my brass has been loaded 20-30 times with RL22 at those speeds.
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I don't know if 9 to 10 reloads out of a case is abnormal or not- I usually don't try to keep cases past 6 or 7 loadings but have no idea what the norm is.
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I've had cases go just fine to 10-13 loadings b4 the primer pockets got loose. Guess the way I see I'll keep using them as long as their still useable. Just the way I see it.
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Mark,
I used the 200 Partition for many years in the .30-06, but not too much for a few years now as I pretty much know what it will do, so have tried other stuff (pretty much what gun writers do). That said, I started loading the 200 Partition in the mid-1970's when it was a "semi-spitzer," with a relief groove, and have loaded the spitzer model since the late 70's in a bunch of rifles. Here's my data for various rifles:
Ruger 77 22"/ 60-H4831/ 200 Partition/ 2770 (1984)
" 61-R22 /200 Speer/ 2658 (1988)
FN Mauser 20"/60-H4831/ 200 Part./ 2659 (1989)
NULA M24 24" /59-H4831SC/ 200 Part./ 2690 (1995)
VZ24/E.R. Shaw 22"/ 59-H4831SC/ 200 Part./ 2667 (2002)
Rem. 700 ADL 22"/ 59-H4831SC/ 200 Part./ 2632 (2002)
Sedgely 24"/ 200 Lapua RNSP factory/ 2625 (2003)
Sauer 303 24"/ 200 Lapua RNSP factory/ 2677 (2010)
None of the above loads loosened primer pockets, and were recorded on various chronographs.
In recent years I've done most of my .30-06 loading with 180's and Ramshot Hunter. 58.0 grains with various 180's has gotten anywhere from 2750 in one 22" barrel to the high 2800's in my 24" NULA. Velocity depends a lot on the bullet and rifle. As an example, the Sierra GameKing has gotten anything from 2750 to 2826, depending on the rifle.
My guess is that Chet's load of 58.5 grains of Hunter would be a good one to try. Ramshot lists 57.7 as maximum with the 200 AccuBond, at a little less than 60,000 psi. My guess is that Chet's load with the 200 Partition would be under 65,000 psi, and get around 2700 from a 24" barrel. Good stuff JB-thx Dober
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My 06 is sporting a 24" barrel.
I'm using 185 vld with 57.0grs H4350 @ 2820.
Also have a good load with 208 amax with 58.0grs Hunter @ 2710 fps.
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