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Originally Posted by boatanchor
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My longest shot was a joint venture with my nephew that took countless hours and countless dollars over a few year period.
It was 2144 yards on a unsuspecting Rockchuck.


Very nice, confirm a wild rangefinder? Have not seen one of those in quite a while.


What Jordan Smith call's a bazooka is a Wild rangefinder


What a let down...

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Just wanted to see what y'all would say. Mine was probably 300-315.


Alright I've got you beat. My longest I'm kinda embarrassed to say is 278 yards... blush


Yeah but knowing how you are I'm assuming you were using the .223 rem grin


Speaking of 223... my longest 223 kill with iron sights on a whitetail doe... 556 ranged yards with an AR15, and 3 other witnesses... but then thats all I shot at that time, often on a daily basis with irons out to 1000 yards at times...


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Originally Posted by horse1


How much slope in that scope base?


I had BAT make me 2 bases for this rifle a 50 MOA and a 70 MOA, cant remember which one was on at the time. either way you have a hard time shooting under 1000 yards grin

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Originally Posted by GSSP
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My longest shot was a joint venture with my nephew that took countless hours and countless dollars over a few year period.
It was 2144 yards on a unsuspecting Rockchuck.

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Is that Jimmy's rifle or did he help you build it? I remember when you guys would go up to the Uintas for really LR 'chucks.

Alan


Jimmy is the nephew I mentioned, we gathered up all the part's and I had Bill Shehane put it together the first time. We had Kirby Allen work on it once and he kinda screwed it up, Joe Olas right there in Springville did the last chamber job on it. It really is in need of a new tube right now but a 36" 1.450" barrel is out of the budget for the time being because I am building a new bench rest gun to use at that range just up from your house in Hobble Creek canyon.

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My question is;

What's the definition of the term, "perfect shot"?

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What's the definition of the term, "perfect shot"?


We each get to define it. smile


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At a big game animal, 343 yards quartering, i was sitting and using a Latigo sling.

The luckiest was a yote kill at 603 yds over bags. It took 3 shots, he'd move a little after I missed, but finally lobbed one in one him with the help of my bro law.

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Originally Posted by Maverick940
My question is;

What's the definition of the term, "perfect shot"?


quick killing shot into what would normally be accepted as a location of the vitals.

IE not a wound or a gut shot.

And as far as that goes a couple of non vital wounds that I own over the years, have all come at UNDER 100 yards. I"ve yet to make a non vital hit at long range.


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my best shot to date was a 458 yard shot on a whitetail doe with a factory savage 111 pre acutrigger chambered in .30-06 shooting 150 grain nosler ballistic tip bullets powered by 52.9 grains of IMR4064. I shot to the heart and she dropped in her tracks.


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Gosh, I've had a few really long shots in my career. I have no idea what the exact yardage was, because I don't carry a range-finder. And, it's hard to say which one of those long shots was the best or so-called "perfect" one. I guess for me the definition of the "perfect" shot would be one that's done on an unsuspecting animal at extremely close range.

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Prairie dog at 1320 yds, Fox at 1108 yds, and a bunch of deer and antelope between 3-900 yds...

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Brian,

WOW, I screwed the rifle up, that is an interesting comment and one I would have never expected to hear coming from you having done so much work for Jimmy and Roland and you with nothing but good results from what I was reported back on.

Jimmy contacted me about rechambering the rifle in the picture you posted, He said that the rifle was not shooting well at all but that it was likely because it had been excessively heated up on several shooting sessions trying to make kills on rockchucks at long range.

I told him to send the rifle up and I would take a look and see what I could do. I wanted the entire rifle as I ALWAYS accuracy test every rifle I work on but Jimmy insisted he only wanted to send the barreled receiver to save shipping cost. Told him that was his choice. But that if I did the work and it made no difference I would not have charged for the work but I had to have the entire rifle to do this, he did not want to pay to ship the entire rifle, again, his choice.

Got the rifle and scoped the bore, there was extreme heat cracking for at least 8" ahead of the throat with significant erosion which likely was the reason for the poor accuracy. I talked to Jimmy and told him exactly what I had found and that I could rechamber the barrel but that while it may improve its performance some it would be for a very limited time with the condition of the barrel and that a new barrel was the very best way to go. He said he wanted to try to rechamber the barrel and see if he could get a bit more life out of it so we rolled on it.

If I remember correctly (this was many years ago), I cut the threaded shank off the barrel and refitted the barrel and recut the chamber. To do this correctly and precisely, I had to order in a set of 5 custom reamer live pilot bushings larger then the very largest bushing I had for the 338 in the shop. This was because my largest bushing which measures 0.3316" in diameter was a sloppy fit in the bore, this tells you how much erosion there had been in the chamber. I ordered 5 more bushings each 0.0002" larger then next which allowed me to perfectly fit the pilot bushing to the oversized bore diameter to ensure a precision chambering job. I did not charge Jimmy for this added cost of $130 on my dime.

The barrel was rechambered with headspace set on the fired case that was supplied by Jimmy. The barreled action was assembled and returned.

About a month later I get an e-mail from Jimmy saying that I had cut the new chamber 0.025" short and that he had to take it to another smith to get the headspace set correctly. I found this very curious as I used the case he provided to set up the headspace specs. But, I am not saying I am perfect either. In fact just to make things right I took him as his word and paid for all the cost for the other smith to deepen the chamber. I have always wondered how this could have happened as never before or since then have I ever made this type of mistake, again, no one is perfect and I considered both of you my personal friend so I covered the bill on my dime.

Jimmy did state that the barrel refitting and chambering was dead on perfect which is what the other smith told him, other then Jimmy claiming that I had cut the chamber 25 thou short.

That was about the last I ever heard from either of you in spite of trying to contact Jimmy many times to find out how the rifle shot.

So I have a very hard time reading what you posted and swallowing it. The rifle was shooting very poorly before it was sent to me because the barrel had been severely overheated many times. It was sent to me to try to get some more life out of the barrel. I told Jimmy exactly what I thought and that was that the barrel was pretty much used up and that a new barrel was the only way to correct this problem, HE decided to push on, HE did not send the entire rifle so I could function and accuracy test, HE and the smith, out of their own mouths said the refitting and rechambering was dead on perfect but apparently the rifle still did not shoot.......

In this business you can not let comments like the one you made in public go without some clarification. There are to many good builders out there to choose from so you have to take these comments head on to clarify exactly what the problem was. With all the rifle projects I have done with Jimmy, you and Roland, which is around a dozen rifles and never once hearing anything but great things about the work, this comment you posted really suprises me. I guess it clears up the end of communication between us inspite of me trying to contact Jimmy repeatedly to see how the rifle was performing which I suspected and predicted to Jimmy that it would not be a huge turn around in precision performance because of the roasted barrel. If he had not been a friend, I would have told him he was out of luck because he did not send the rifle back to me and allow me to correct the "Mistake" which is my standard proceedure as it is with any builder. I do not know of any builder that would have let another smith fix a "MISTAKE" without being able to confirm it personally and solve the problem and still pay for the work to be done by another smith. I beleive I went WAY over what was needed to make Jimmy happy. As I said, I could have easily told him to bad, you did not let me fix the alleged problem but I did not, yet I still get bashed on a public forum by you.

Nuff said, just wanted to clear the air and post some history of the situtation.

To get back to the topic at hand,

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This kill occured on the very first outing with the rifle. I had only zeroed it at 500 yards and had just wanted to see what it would do. It took 5 shots to kill the chuck at 2370 yards.

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Made this kill on the third outing after making the 2370 yard kill. Took 4 shots. On the second outing, Black Sunshine made a 1095 yard two shot kill.

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This was the one shot kill that started my Grand Slam adventure several years earlier. To be fair, the rifle was made by Dennis Olson of Plains, MT. A great rifle. At this time I was just starting to get into precision firearm manufacturing so I decided to stop until I could try for the grand slam with my own rifles. As it turned out, it took only three more outings all in the summer of 2006. I qualified for the Grand Slam with a 1055 yard(500 yard qualifier), 1095 yards(1000 yard qualifier, 2100 yards (1500 yard qualifier) and 2370 yards (2000 yard qualifier) for an average kill range of 1655 yards.

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This shot was made on a bet, one shot, cold bore at 2460 yards. That said, I missed it on the second shot!!!

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This is my longest big game kill to day. The longest I have attempted at big game to be honest. This was also with my 338 Allen Magnum with a 265 gr Aluminum tipped RBBT loaded to just shy of 3600 fps.

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Nice shooting! You didn't mention how far away that pronghorn was... wink

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Sorry, pronghorn was at 1307 yards, one shot kill.


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Nice shots and nice post Kirby.

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+1 on that.


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Kirby, Not trying to diss you but was just stating the history of the rifle. Short chambering .025" is kinda screwing things up but on the other hand the gunsmith I had fix the chambering job on this rifle he long chambered a 22-250AI for me about a year later.
I think both of you are top shelf gunsmith's it is just that schitt just seems to happen at times with wildcat calibers, I could not be more happy with the Sako AV short mag you did for me. I dont have a problem with you and hope you dont have a problem with me.
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Man that speedgoat looks mangled! Some pretty insane ballistics there.

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he was bedded down with his back to me, quartering away from our position. The 265 gr AT RBBT entered at the point of his left hip and came out just behind the right shoulder. It looks much worse then it really was, By the time we got out to the buck he had bled out pretty well soaking into his hide making it look much worse then it really was.

When the bullet landed it looked like I hit a feather pillow!!!

It was pretty dramatic to say the least.

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Those aluminum tips have gotta just rip through stuff. I was checking out some dummy rounds at Dan Dowlings shop that I think he had just for fun, thinking they were 750AMAXes or something like that, and those tips just look mean. Very cool.

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