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#6160662 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: UPhiker]  
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The only gun that gets traded in more than a Glock 26 is a Glock 27. One of those "good ideas" at first blush that really isn't.

Anything smaller than a G19 should be thought of as a BUG (backup gun). If all you are carrying is a 380, then you aren't really carrying, or barely so. Or, as Massad Ayoob says, "That's the gun I carry when I'm not carrying a gun."

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#6160830 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: Take_a_knee]  
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LCP with a belt clip.

In hot weather I pack this pistol wearing shorts and an untucked tanktop .

Did just that at the local police K9 competiton last summer, with the place crawling with cops, and none the wiser. (I have a concealed handgun licence)

Virgil B.

#6161252 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: warpig602]  
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Colt Detective Special with hammer shroud, because it's dead reliable and I can shoot it better than I can shoot the alloy frame version or a Smith J-frame - plus there's that extra shot compared to the Smiths.

#6161259 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: Kentucky_Windage]  
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I have utilized the same old Model 38 Smith for 40 years.


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#6161267 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: 41magfan]  
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Kahr PM 9... night sights, Crimson Trace.... Always goes bang and with the laser sight accurate enough to serve as a top shelf trail gun.... High Noon pocket holster.

Some pants have deep enough back pockets to hold it.... That make for a very fast draw..... Front pocket from a seated position... Not so fast... I need to pick up an IWB holster designed to be used with the laser....

I may pick up a CM 9 so I can fool with cast bullets in one....

The trigger took some getting used to because it's so long... Not a problem now though.... Recoil even with hot loads is a non issue.


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#6161308 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: 2ndwind]  
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The smallest one I own is a Sig P238, which has a good reputation. Mine, unfortunately, does not run very well. It appears at times to have too weak of a recoil spring. I did more checking last weekend, and did find that the extractor had a little too much tension. I strengthened the spring slightly, and took out a bit of extractor tension, so we'll see how it runs this weekend.


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#6162105 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: tex_n_cal]  
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I've got a Keltec .32 and a Ruger LCP. I'm going to give the .32 to my oldest daughter as soon as I get a chance to shoot the Ruger.


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#6162126 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: Kentucky_Windage]  
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Originally Posted by Kentucky_Windage
Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol?


S&W J-frame.........I have 2, a 442 & a 340PD.

135 gr. Gold Dot short Barrel loads.

IMO, way easier to handle than a small auto........I just don't like the way they shoot compared to the J's.

MM

#6163008 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: Kentucky_Windage]  
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Kel tec fit & finnish?
Function is what matters, and of course concealilibity

#6163027 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: TBREW401]  
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Yep, we are not talking heirloom guns here, just work-a-day carry guns.


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#6163130 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: T LEE]  
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My top choice is a 642. It fits well and doesn't snag or print.


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#6163150 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: Cheyenne]  
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Revolver? 442/642

Semi-auto? Kel-Tec P3AT.




#6163201 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: VAnimrod]  
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Kel Tec 32 or S&W Model 37 Airweight.

#6163678 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: Lawdwaz]  
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Fits in the pocket and it's 9mm

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#6163780 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: bigbrie]  
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Clipdraw on an LCP, will go anywhere.
http://www.clipdraw.com/


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#6163949 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: Dons99]  
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True pocket pistols - Glaser Safety Slugs .25 ACP

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#6164185 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: OrangeOkie]  
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Kel Tec 3AT - it has been 100% reliable!!

Bought the Kel Tec 32 and used is for a while, as long as you loaded the semi-rimmed rounds properly in the mag it functioned great. But when the 3AT came out in almost exactly the same size gun I quickly went to the .380. Bigger, more powerful round in the same basic size package with out having to worry about the semi-rim ammo issues. Win Win situation.

That said, if I were buying one today, I'd get the Ruger LCP. It is essentially the same gun as the Kel Tec, but the Ruger is smoother all over.

#6164249 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: AKNHNTR]  
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Looks like it's a horse race now between the Kel Tec and the LCP. As I mentioned, I have a bunch of other stuff for IWB carry, etc., but I'm looking for a true pocket pistol. I don't put the Kahr 9s or 642s (I have both) in that category.

Questions for LCP and Kel Tec owners:

- Have they been reliable from the get-go, or did they require X number of rounds for break-in?
- Is either finicky about ammo?
- Does either require frequent or special lube to run smooth?
- Any durability issues?

I looked at both briefly today. The Kel Tec doesn't look nearly as ugly as it often appears in photographs. Guess it's just not very photogenic. wink

I did notice it's priced at least $50 cheaper than the lowest-priced LCPs in this area. What's the biggest difference, other than the fact that you can lock the LCP slide back?


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#6164328 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: Kentucky_Windage]  
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Kel-Tec P-32 here -

- Have they been reliable from the get-go, or did they require X number of rounds for break-in?

Mine was fairly reliable from the start. A couple of times in the first 100 rounds or so the slide would not go all the way into battery so I had to push it forward to lock but whatever that was seems to have smoothed out.

- Is either finicky about ammo?

Have only fed mine Wincheser white box FMJ and Federal Hydra-shoks. Reliable with both. BTW, some of that white box FMJ has a flat meplat. If one is concerned with penetration a good flat point will penetrate and still carry some shock. I believe some folks mix up hollow points with FMJ in the magazine to get the best of both.

- Does either require frequent or special lube to run smooth?

No special lube, I used Break-free on mine. Just keep it clean like you would any normal pistol you might bet your life on. wink Something folks don't think about is that pocket lint collects in odd places like the bottom of a pocket holster,so it's worthwhile to inspect the holster and look in the barrel now and then. Also, don't smother it in oil since that attracts pocket dust bunnies. I mostly pay attention to keeping the slide rails and lockwork clean and a light coat of oil on the moving parts, the outside stays fairly dry.

- Any durability issues?

Not yet, but mine's only had a few hundred rounds through it.



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#6164344 - 02/11/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: Kentucky_Windage]  
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#6164358 - 02/12/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: Kentucky_Windage]  
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RE, Kentucky Windage: "What do you like and why?"
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A S&W 432 PD 'Airweight' snubnose revolver - 32 H&R Magnum.

A Beretta 3032 'Tomcat' Inox pistol - 32 ACP

I like BOTH because they are not TOO small ... and are fun to shoot and shoot accurately.

#6164441 - 02/12/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: P_Weed]  
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Between these two I would go Kel-tec, it has no magazine disconnect like the Ruger LCP. I will never own a pistol that is disabled when the mag drops out............Hb

#6164478 - 02/12/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: T LEE]  
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Originally Posted by T LEE
Always have my 1st gen Kel-Tec P-32 whether I have anything else with me or not, it is my "always gun".

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...same exact setup....Bob


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#6164746 - 02/12/12 Re: Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? [Re: RJM]  
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The old deputy sheriff that I rode with when I first wore a badge, was called "Big John". Everybody knew him, and he lived up to every stitch of his reputation.

He wasn't more than 6'1", but he was just huge. His fingers were so big, the hairs on them looked like pencil lead. His wrists were so big around that the old metal stretch band on his watch had gaps between the links that you could lay .22 LR rounds in.

Anyway, Big John's pocket gun, which rode in his left front pants pocket, was a nickel plated model 59 Smith and Wesson. He had carried that pistol in there so long that all the nickel was worn off the right side of the gun.

His belt gun was a 4" Colt Python, as he was a believer in the .357 Magnum.

Myself, I don't think I could get one of those big Smith's to ride in my front pants pocket, but he sure did.


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