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FINALLY got confirmation from the Director of DNR in SC... Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:28 AM
To: Charles Ruth
Subject: deer regulations on private lands
Mr. Ruth,
Would you please direct me to the specific code in SC law or DNR regulations pertaining to the minimum caliber LEGALLY allowed for harvesting deer on private lands?
I am unable to find anything that prohibits the use of rimfire weapons on private lands.
I am not interested in what the DNR consideres ethical. I know hunters who could not make a clean kill with a 300 winchester magnum and I know hunters who could use a 22LR and drop every deer they need.
What I am looking for is very specific language that either allows or prohibits the use of rimfires, not an ethics debate.
Thanks you in advance.
There is no such law or regulation for private land.
That said, historically there was a regulation that applied to WMA lands statewide and to private land in Game Zones 1 and 2 that prohibited using FMJ bullets or .22 rimfire or smaller for big game. However, the general assembly removed this restriction on private land a couple of years ago.
The wording related to WMA�s can be found on page 31 of the Rules and Regs brochure and states:
3.3 On WMA lands, big game hunters are not allowed to use military or hard-jacketed bullets or .22 or smaller rimfire.
Again, this used to apply to private land but no longer does.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Charles Ruth
Certified Wildlife Biologist
Deer & Wild Turkey Program Coordinator
SC Dept. of Natural Resources
P. O. Box 167
Columbia, SC 29202-0167
What is going to be the most effective 22LR bullet fired? It is 100% legal for me to use a 22LR. I am hunting on my land. my shooting position is at a 20 degree downward angle at 0-50 yards MAX. Im sure some of you will not be able to contain yourselves and must comment about how its unethical to shoot a deer with a 22LR. margin of error ect ect ect. I am talking about 40 yard MAX shots. I have a sandbagged fixed position to shoot from. Compared to a person taking a 200 yard shot with any centerfire the same margin of error could result in a blown off jaw or leg just as easy.
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I've killed an awful lot of stuff with Remington Yellow Jackets. That said, they don't always group well in all weapons. You are going to want a high level of accuracy and precision. CCI MiniMags and maybe Velocitors should round out the list of ammunition I'd set up for.
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Does it matter? I've never shot a deer in the skull with a .22lr. But have killed quite a few cattle with it. The critical spot to hit is easily penetrated. I think all the cattle I dispatched were probably shot with Blazer lead points.
For the kind of precise brain shot you are talking about a fancy .22lr in the wrong spot won't work anyway. Hit the right spot and a .22 short will do it.
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Close neighbors and depridating whitetails. (If I remember his earlier thread correctly.)
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probably been more deer killed with a .22 than any other caliber....
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The CCI Minimag would be a good choice....or any other high velosity hollowpoint bullets.
I would NOT use any of the hyper velosity rounds (Velociter, Yellow jackets, or Stingers) as these rounds are designed to expand rapidly and can fail to penetrate enough on larger game.
I have.....errrr....heard rumors....that the .22 LR is very effective against whitetails with both head and body shots, but the hyper-velosity rounds are asking for trouble.
Be prepared for the deer to run a ways with a body shot and NOT leave much of a blood trail. It will die just fine but unless you are an excellent tracker or use dogs to help with recovery don't try it.......ahhhh, so I've heard anyway!
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Brain shots with a 22LR have killed many whitetail. 40 yds from an elevated solid position should be easily accomplished. I personally have only used 40gr solids in this role. I was much younger and had not yet learned that a head shot required major foot pounds.
The deer on your private land (like on mine) are probably not harrassed and so are not vigilant. This makes the shot unrushed and controlled. I have never lost a deer to a 22LR because the shots are always appropriate. The deer drops and often other deer close by sniff and paw at their dead companion without startling. Enjoy the venison.
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I'll take the bait...I wouldn't even hunt a coyote with a .22, let alone a deer. Even a 22 Hornet, 218 Bee etc would be a better choice.
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We tested a 22lr on a mature doe skull once(hide still on) and most all bullets that hit at an angle deflected off the skull. A perfectly flat hit was better, but how likely is that to happen. If I were to even try it(not legal here), it would be neck shots right under the head. The 22LR does the same on a hog's skull, but if you shoot them in the neck it kills them stone dead.
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I'll take the bait...I wouldn't even hunt a coyote with a .22, let alone a deer. Even a 22 Hornet, 218 Bee etc would be a better choice. I have killed many a dog and coyote with a .22lr stinger....more often than not it was a drop right there instant death.
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Unethical? Who am I to say?
Stupid? Subjective...
Do I THINK it's stupid? Without a doubt...
Sounds a bit "Beavis and Butthead" to me.
I THINK you'd have more fun building a potato gun or a catapult that throws commodes...
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Unethical? Who am I to say?
Stupid? Subjective...
Do I THINK it's stupid? Without a doubt...
Sounds a bit "Beavis and Butthead" to me.
I THINK you'd have more fun building a potato gun or a catapult that throws commodes... ^this you can't fix stupid proven fact
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Never done it, but if I was going to, I would be on the ground and stick one in the eye. Nor would I waste time reloading.
Last edited by battue; 02/14/12.
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I have killed many a dog and coyote with a .22lr stinger....more often than not it was a drop right there instant death.
Coyotes are tough animals. I have personally tracked a few without finding them after blasting them with a 223, 243, and 22-250AI. A 22 is a joke.
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Never done it, but if I was going to, I would be on the ground and stick one in the eye. To my way of thinking, that would be worse. There's bone behind that gelatinous eye!
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Yeah... Not too sure of the motivation to shoot a game animal with a .22... Noise level?
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Agreed. But there is a good chance it would put it on the ground for you to hit it again.
Don't ever plan on doing it, but just throwing some initial thoughts out.
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Motivation....so I'm told....is that the Game Warden can't hear the shot from 2 miles away.
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