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#6219060 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: Dancing Bear]  
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For the last decade I've done most of my spring turkey hunting with a Sauer 12-gauge side-by-side made just before WWII. It's choked the typical German tight and tighter, with 2-3/4" chambers.

Mostly I've used 1-1/4 ounces of #5 shot, either lead or Bismuth, depending on regulations, and have not had any trouble taking gobblers out to 45 yards. My last one was one of the bigger-than-a-pigeon Montana Merriams that weighed 19-1/2 pounds with the guts out, taken last spring.

This spring Eileen and I are going to try to do a combo bear/bird hunt on the west side of the divide, using our German combo guns. Mine is a Sauer drilling 16x16x6.5x57R, while hers is a no-name over-under 16/9.3x72R. Eileen usually uses a 20-gauge but likes the combo gun she decided to step up a little.

In Montana's fall season we shoot 'em with whatever's handy. The .22 Hornet is ideal, but they also die from .270 injection.


John

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#6219115 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: Tom264]  
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Originally Posted by Tom264
Blackheart He's just an extension of steelheads Large intestin.

He's my new buddy I guess.


I have no doubts your large intestine has seen more cock than a Perdue chicken farm.


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#6219155 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: Mule Deer]  
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I found a 180 gr Ballistic tip, launched from a Krag, to put them down decisively. Due to the distance, and the open sights I took a body shot, thinking the relatively slow velocity wouldn't tear up a lot of meat. Wrong frown

OTH I helped one guy look for a turkey that he'd shot in the neck with a .270. Where the bird was shot we found bloody grain from a blown up crop spread over a 5 foot circle, then a blood trail a blnd man could follow for 30 yards, then it just disappeared. The hunter was dumbfounded the bird got away. I keep wondering if a bobcat or lion grabbed it and carried it off. It should have been DRT.

It's also interesting to think about something that will decisively kill deer, yet not tear up meat on turkey. I'm told a .54 cal round ball will do it. A drilling found be a fun handloading exercise, too...


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#6219217 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: ingwe]  
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Dat was mean...did I forget to mention I weigh 780 lbs...?


So you have trimmed down. grin

#6219269 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: tex_n_cal]  
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tex n cal,

Oh, I know about those 180 Ballistic Tips in the .30-40! I once shot a prairie dog at around 220 yards with a 180 BT from a High Wall reproduction rifle in .30-40, and the bullet left a 1" exit hole!. Now, it was a big dog (the reason I could hit it at over 200 with iron sights) but still...

I have shot a few wurkeys with deer rifles right up the wazoo when they were facing away, and that placement works pretty well. The bullet does most of the damage where Thanksgiving turkeys are traditionally filled with dressing.


John

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#6219310 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: shrapnel]  
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Originally Posted by shrapnel


Nope it's my grizzly killin' 25-35...

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#6219400 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: Steelhead]  
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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by Tom264
Blackheart He's just an extension of steelheads Large intestin.

He's my new buddy I guess.


I have no doubts your large intestine has seen more cock than a Perdue chicken farm.




You two need to grow-the-phugg-up.










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#6219425 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: SKane]  
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turkey and elk both can't be killed with "ordinary" stuff

magnums are a must........bs

#6219591 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: tedthorn]  
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To me when calling them in to 25 yards or less and they gobble.They seem to be a lot larger than whatever I am carrying.
I have a buddy that shot 2 gobblers with 1 shot out of a Winchester 97 pump at 20 yards.
It took him a minute to get his senses back after the shot,I don't know where he went but he was gone.He was using 23/4 no.5 shot. Full choke.

#6219670 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: digger44]  
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Originally Posted by digger44
Yes to the distance question. The 3 1/2 12's and 10's in no 6 throw around 500 pellets. combine that with an ultra tight choke and you gain considerable distance.


Yep.

And it's wise not to have your shoulder pressed snuggly against a tree when touching off a 3 1/2 inch turkey load. blush


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#6219760 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: SKane]  
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If you need that kind of distance, you might as well use a rifle. My last 20 have been killed with a 20 gauge. 2 of 'em shot over 40 yards.

What does it take? Put a head shot on 'em inside of 30 yards with just about anything you got laying around.




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I should have just
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#6219824 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: Folically_Challenged]  
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Originally Posted by Folically_Challenged
Not being a turkey hunter, I've been surprised to read so many stories in the "Worst Recoil" thread about guys getting creamed by 12 gauges shooting 3 1/2" shells at turkeys. Will a 2 3/4" shell not get it done? Or, does a 3 1/2" buy you an appreciable amount of range?

Just curious,

FC


2 3/4's work just fine as does 3"....I only use and used the big guys like 3" and 3.5" and the sometime shoulder snapping 10 Gauge for Geese.Check your choke so it isn't spray and prey(if it is adjustable) and the 12 gauges of old are just fine for turkey's.

Jayco

#6219860 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: yukonal]  
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Originally Posted by yukonal
If you need that kind of distance, you might as well use a rifle.


Which I'd much prefer although both the WI and Kansas DNR frown upon such a thing. smile


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#6219923 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: SKane]  
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Never stopped you in the past... wink





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Originally Posted by archie_james_c
I should have just
bought a [bleep] T3...


#6220696 - 02/25/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: yukonal]  
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Where I grew up we used a machete and a spotlight, we'd find where they roost on a gate or low branch and go out at night.

My old hunting partner and I once went out and got thirty turkeys for a big dinner. We drove out to a tree where I knew they were roosting, when we got there you couldn't walk under the tree standing up but by the time we finished we had to reach up to touch a branch, they weighted the tree down so much. We popped them in the head with a .22. There were some big gobblers in that bunch.


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#6223225 - 02/26/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: Mule Deer]  
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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
For the last decade I've done most of my spring turkey hunting with a Sauer 12-gauge side-by-side made just before WWII. It's choked the typical German tight and tighter, with 2-3/4" chambers.

Mostly I've used 1-1/4 ounces of #5 shot, either lead or Bismuth, depending on regulations, and have not had any trouble taking gobblers out to 45 yards. My last one was one of the bigger-than-a-pigeon Montana Merriams that weighed 19-1/2 pounds with the guts out, taken last spring.

This spring Eileen and I are going to try to do a combo bear/bird hunt on the west side of the divide, using our German combo guns. Mine is a Sauer drilling 16x16x6.5x57R, while hers is a no-name over-under 16/9.3x72R. Eileen usually uses a 20-gauge but likes the combo gun she decided to step up a little.

In Montana's fall season we shoot 'em with whatever's handy. The .22 Hornet is ideal, but they also die from .270 injection.


I would hate to see the pile of turkeys killed with standard Fedremchester standard 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz loads, or the standard 16 and 20ga loads for that matter.


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#6223564 - 02/26/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: Folically_Challenged]  
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Originally Posted by Folically_Challenged
Not being a turkey hunter, I've been surprised to read so many stories in the "Worst Recoil" thread about guys getting creamed by 12 gauges shooting 3 1/2" shells at turkeys. Will a 2 3/4" shell not get it done? Or, does a 3 1/2" buy you an appreciable amount of range?

Just curious,

FC
2 3/4" will kill just fine 3 1/2" doesn't buy you any more range just more pay load...I shoot 3 1/2" cause thats what patterns best from my gun


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#6223577 - 02/26/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: dvdegeorge]  
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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
Originally Posted by Folically_Challenged
Not being a turkey hunter, I've been surprised to read so many stories in the "Worst Recoil" thread about guys getting creamed by 12 gauges shooting 3 1/2" shells at turkeys. Will a 2 3/4" shell not get it done? Or, does a 3 1/2" buy you an appreciable amount of range?

Just curious,

FC
2 3/4" will kill just fine 3 1/2" doesn't buy you any more range just more pay load...I shoot 3 1/2" cause thats what patterns best from my gun


Beleive me, 3 1/2 inch #4 Buckshot will extend your range...


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#6223706 - 02/26/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: shrapnel]  
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You guys are just vicious, ruthless killers.

Plain and simple...





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Originally Posted by archie_james_c
I should have just
bought a [bleep] T3...


#6224180 - 02/26/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: yukonal]  
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"What's it take to kill a turkey?" From the OP.

One well placed bullet, BB, or Arrow. Plain and simple. They are not some super tough armored bird. They die well from a well placed bullet, BB, or arrow. For shotgun I shoot 1oz #7-1/2's at them and have never had one get back up. We can't rifle hunt here for them. But a .17 in your favorite flavor would do just fine as a number of others have stated as well as .22Hornet.


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#6224511 - 02/26/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: MontanaCreekHunter]  
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I always thought that a .25-20 would be an excellent turkey
rifle.

#6224581 - 02/26/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: MontanaCreekHunter]  
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"What's it take to kill a turkey?"

Being smarter then the turkey helps, I think.

I find that I go out each spring and frequently get outsmarted by the world's dumbest bird.

Jim


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#6233656 - 02/28/12 Re: What's it take to kill a turkey? [Re: Pharmseller]  
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Shotguns only here in Michigan. I can understand it. Rifles can be hazardous in a dense woods full of turkey hunters trying their best not to be visible. It would be nice to use a rifle though. Getting within rifle range is a lot easier than getting within shotgun range. My season would be a lot shorter if I could use a 204.

I understand the 5mm Rem rimfire round was popular with turkey hunters in times past. The 17HMR should be just as good I would think, but I'll likely never know.


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