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Originally Posted by yukonal
If you need that kind of distance, you might as well use a rifle.


Which I'd much prefer although both the WI and Kansas DNR frown upon such a thing. smile


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Where I grew up we used a machete and a spotlight, we'd find where they roost on a gate or low branch and go out at night.

My old hunting partner and I once went out and got thirty turkeys for a big dinner. We drove out to a tree where I knew they were roosting, when we got there you couldn't walk under the tree standing up but by the time we finished we had to reach up to touch a branch, they weighted the tree down so much. We popped them in the head with a .22. There were some big gobblers in that bunch.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
For the last decade I've done most of my spring turkey hunting with a Sauer 12-gauge side-by-side made just before WWII. It's choked the typical German tight and tighter, with 2-3/4" chambers.

Mostly I've used 1-1/4 ounces of #5 shot, either lead or Bismuth, depending on regulations, and have not had any trouble taking gobblers out to 45 yards. My last one was one of the bigger-than-a-pigeon Montana Merriams that weighed 19-1/2 pounds with the guts out, taken last spring.

This spring Eileen and I are going to try to do a combo bear/bird hunt on the west side of the divide, using our German combo guns. Mine is a Sauer drilling 16x16x6.5x57R, while hers is a no-name over-under 16/9.3x72R. Eileen usually uses a 20-gauge but likes the combo gun she decided to step up a little.

In Montana's fall season we shoot 'em with whatever's handy. The .22 Hornet is ideal, but they also die from .270 injection.


I would hate to see the pile of turkeys killed with standard Fedremchester standard 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz loads, or the standard 16 and 20ga loads for that matter.


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Originally Posted by Folically_Challenged
Not being a turkey hunter, I've been surprised to read so many stories in the "Worst Recoil" thread about guys getting creamed by 12 gauges shooting 3 1/2" shells at turkeys. Will a 2 3/4" shell not get it done? Or, does a 3 1/2" buy you an appreciable amount of range?

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2 3/4" will kill just fine 3 1/2" doesn't buy you any more range just more pay load...I shoot 3 1/2" cause thats what patterns best from my gun


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Originally Posted by Folically_Challenged
Not being a turkey hunter, I've been surprised to read so many stories in the "Worst Recoil" thread about guys getting creamed by 12 gauges shooting 3 1/2" shells at turkeys. Will a 2 3/4" shell not get it done? Or, does a 3 1/2" buy you an appreciable amount of range?

Just curious,

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2 3/4" will kill just fine 3 1/2" doesn't buy you any more range just more pay load...I shoot 3 1/2" cause thats what patterns best from my gun


Beleive me, 3 1/2 inch #4 Buckshot will extend your range...


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You guys are just vicious, ruthless killers.

Plain and simple...





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"What's it take to kill a turkey?" From the OP.

One well placed bullet, BB, or Arrow. Plain and simple. They are not some super tough armored bird. They die well from a well placed bullet, BB, or arrow. For shotgun I shoot 1oz #7-1/2's at them and have never had one get back up. We can't rifle hunt here for them. But a .17 in your favorite flavor would do just fine as a number of others have stated as well as .22Hornet.


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I always thought that a .25-20 would be an excellent turkey
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"What's it take to kill a turkey?"

Being smarter then the turkey helps, I think.

I find that I go out each spring and frequently get outsmarted by the world's dumbest bird.

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Shotguns only here in Michigan. I can understand it. Rifles can be hazardous in a dense woods full of turkey hunters trying their best not to be visible. It would be nice to use a rifle though. Getting within rifle range is a lot easier than getting within shotgun range. My season would be a lot shorter if I could use a 204.

I understand the 5mm Rem rimfire round was popular with turkey hunters in times past. The 17HMR should be just as good I would think, but I'll likely never know.


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Having taken 70-80 turkeys (we are allowed 6 per season here in Northern Idaho) with only shotgun or bow allowed, I am one of the "more is better" proponents.

My results with 2 3/4 12-ga were OK, but there were too many birds I didn't get...just needed more pellets going out.

I upgraded years ago to a 12 ga 3" and really like the 4/6 duplex loads, with lost birds diminishing to only one.

Only went out twice with a bow, got one tom and one coyote who was sneaking my decoy.

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I shot my first turkey about 45 years ago. I didn't even intend to shoot it but when it took flight and the front sight of my 22 settled on it, I just pulled the trigger. It set it's wings and glided for about 200 yards before it hit the ground. My cocker spaniel went for the retrieve but, after he dragged it about fifty feet, he just sat there and waited for me. the bird was tasty. My second turkey was taken 40 years later. Again, the 22 did the trick. In fact, it was the same 22 rifle! This turkey wasn't flying, the dog was a beagle who had no intention of retrieving anything, and the bird was barely edible. GD

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I use the 3.5" 12ga Hevi Shot Mag Blend in an auto. (Rem SPR 453 aka Baikal Mp153) with a Carlson's .665 dia choke that combo I feel good with to at least 50 yards. I patterned it at 45 and I stopped counting the head and neck hits. I've never had occasion to shoot one farther than that (we can use rifles in SD) as it seems too easy. I'm sure with optics a guy could reach out and touch one at 60 with the 3.5 pretty easy.

I previously used a 3'' 12ga with Hevi 13 #6's which is also good at 40 but the pattern is no where close to the 3.5.

I shoot most of my turkeys under 20 yards at which distance Im sure you could use about whatever with a full choke and get it done. I know at 20 yards with that 3.5 it would bring a new meaning to "Jelly Head" if you centered it. Which is the main reason for the turkey chokes, a tight pattern results in less wounding.

Do you need a 3.5" 12 or 10ga with TSS or Hevi 13 to kill one? No way. Does it open up more opportunities for you provided you have patterned the gun and know where it hits farther out? Absolutely.

I use archery tackle most of the time. Closest ever kill was around 8 yards with a bow, farthest was about 40 yards with my 3.5" 12 and Hevi 13 Magnum Blend. Only time I have seen a turkey backflip shot with a shotgun. The rest have all been 20yards and under and dropped at the shot.



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