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#6274908 - 03/10/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: Calvin]  
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Dave, I liked the story, and the blog as a whole!

On one of my early backpacking trips as a teen we got rained on pretty much the entire way to the lake we intended to fish. We got camp set up but didn't realize we had set our tent up in a depression of sorts. The water bed concept with condensation is not fun....

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#6275374 - 03/10/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: sreekers]  
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Don't island camp on the Colville River in Alaska. There was light rain where we were caribou and moose hunting, but it must have deluged upstream on the North slope of the Brooks Range. Three of us were trapped on a 100 yard long island for a few days when the river rose about 5' and went into full flood. To top it off we had a sow and cub grizzly on the island with us one night sniffing the tent. We were bowhunting, but did have an 870 with slugs along. I didn't shoot but sure as heck used a lot of adrenalin up that night with them circling the tent. One of my hunting buddies never slept a wink in the dark the rest of the trip. At least we had a guard who kept the meager willow fire tended.

The drop camp operator finally delivered by super cup drop a small weather checked raft that we used to go to shore to hunt caribou. We did miss the main migration that swam by us crossing the Colville on the days we were trapped on the little island. One had horns with giant red star shaped tops that still come to mind as I type this!

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#6275408 - 03/10/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: las]  
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Originally Posted by las
Originally Posted by elkhunter_241
During archery season dont leave your sidearm at camp, no matter how heavy it is.

I only did this twice in a 20 year span and as luck would have it, I ran into a bear both times, the second one got the point across REAL well, it was a grizzly at 15 feet.


Obviously - you didn't need it, and it might have gotten you into trouble if you'd had it...


Ive had other encounters while armed and didnt "get into trouble" with those. In this case I got lucky, very lucky and will not expect to get so lucky again.

I have said time and again, the best bear defense is your brain, eyes and ears backed up by a weapon you can shoot well.

While you may feel otherwise, I have my preferences and will continue to use them as I see fit.


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#6275598 - 03/10/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: elkhunter_241]  
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Don't tease moose during the rut.


Go Broncos!
#6288936 - 03/13/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: 280shooter]  
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Little brother had a habit of using a sock when he needed "TP". After coming home with a cold foot a time or two, he started carrying the appropriate paper product.

Well....

He also learned that holding on to a pine tree to take care of said business was bad news after spending the rest of the day picking toilet paper off his hands.


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#6290804 - 03/14/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: 16bore]  
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No matter how much water you need to carry in waterless country, don't leave the minimal, core survival kit behind...even if it's a "cakewalk" day hunt.

That was a long, cold January Idaho night for me, my 12 year old son, and my hunting partner.

#6294541 - 03/15/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: jockc]  
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1) just cause the twigs snapped when you breaking them, doesn't mean they will fire up in a kifaru stove.....water soaked frozen wood don't burn
2) if it took a GPS to get your azz in, it'll take one to get it out (fresh batterys, don't drop GPS into a snow bank)
3) good idea to top off the tank before heading into the woods
4) DO NOT share a tent with a dog that may have eaten chocolate
5) Never climb into a treestand that you didn't put up, and never fail to use a harness
6) never head light a string of half wild tied up pack ponies when you leave the tent for natures call in the night, that outfitter is still cussing me
7)Account for every round of ammo BEFORE you attempt to board a plane home after a hunt, TSA has NO sense of humor
8)drying out boots or socks by campfire is tricky, likely to result in destruction of said items
9)if you are fishing ANYWHERE in ALASKA, the game cops are watching you, read that whole damn book including footnotes
More will come to me,
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#6294597 - 03/15/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: docdb]  
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If you carry a mountain house and stove, don't forget the necessary stove to boil the water. Cold mountain houses are great.


#6295197 - 03/15/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: GreBb]  
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Originally Posted by BBerg
Never leave your backpack behind. It costed me my Dall sheep ram two years ago. Never again.


BBerg:

I'll go you one better on that. NEVER LET YOUR BACKPACK GET OUT OF YOUR SIGHT. There are many situations where the gear in that pack, or lack thereof, can mean the difference between life and death or more commonly the difference between a casual-comfortable outing and a miserable experience. For the same reason, I always carry minimum survival gear in the pockets of my pants; fire stuff, Swiss Army knife, foil survival blanket, etc. , and I never leave camp without rain gear.

KC





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#6295221 - 03/15/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: superdave]  
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Originally Posted by superdave

Definitely don't forget to look for cactus before you sit down.


+1

or put your hand down on the ground, or crawl through the grass on a stalk.

I wonder how many times I've regretfully forgotten that?

KC



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Bravo

#6299677 - 03/16/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: rob p]  
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Originally Posted by rob p
Don't try to crap in bibs. Spend the time and take them off first. All you have to do is land a turd in them once, and pull them back on to get the idea you should never do it again.


I just went and threw all my bib overalls in the trash. ROFLMAO

#6299955 - 03/16/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: sreekers]  
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Don't set-up your backpacker tent next to a corridor that's being used by generation after generation after generation of bears that have never been hunted. Tim Treadwell and Amie Huguenard can attest to that.

#6300277 - 03/16/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: sreekers]  
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In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn...
Don't grab Devil's Club.

It's better to fall 100s of feet than arrest yourself with DC.


If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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#6300414 - 03/16/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: ironbender]  
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Originally Posted by ironbender
Don't grab Devil's Club.

It's better to fall 100s of feet than arrest yourself with DC.
Laffin'! My first experience with the stuff was in a self arrest. I agree! smile

#6300586 - 03/16/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: pointer]  
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In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn...
Panic will do that!
lol....


If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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#6300611 - 03/16/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: pointer]  
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Always have a backup to your water filtration. On a trip in Arizona over the fourth of July my pump broke miles back in a wilderness area. What was supposed to be a relaxing trip turned into trying to boil sludge green water with a jetboil two cups at a time with a small canister of fuel. Needless to say it worked and I made it out... Lesson learned.

#6301034 - 03/17/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: ironbender]  
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Originally Posted by ironbender
Panic will do that!
lol....


Yeah, isn't it funny how panic kind of ruins a guy's day? Ditto with me on the devils club experience. I hate that stuff. Not even the cholla patches of Sonoran compare with the jungle cluster of devils club distributed among dense alder.

There's a canyon in Unit 7 that used to hold some huge Dall rams and probably still does, and the whole way in to there is a literal jungle of alder and devils club with only bear trails for access. Horrible hike, that one is.

#6305393 - 03/18/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: Maverick940]  
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Don't assume that other people understand that once you hook a winch to them they stay hooked up.

I ran into a kid stuck down a snowy road 50 feet from pavement. He had been digging for a while and was eager to get out before someone spotted him I guess. I hooked up to him and pulled him back to the road. I'm about to get out and unhook him when he decides that he has traction now and takes off down the road, still tied to my winch, with me honking and hollering trying to get him to stop. At least I was able to get the Jeep out of park and into neutral before he hit the end of the cable.

I now have a little more discussion with folks before I pull cable.

#6307123 - 03/18/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: NM_elk_chaser]  
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Really secure water to your backpack. I made it ~ 2/3 up them moutain with 6L of water on a high country mule deer hunt where water would be an issue. Very disappointing to take the pack off at the end of the brutal hike and realize our for-sure water source was gone. No idea how I didn't hear that thud. Scraped old snow off the ground in the shade on the north slopes for drinking water - lots of extra grit and work required. Not recommended.

When the oil service truck driver that runs the soggy forest service road everyday tells you to bring out your chains, you really need to put them on(make sure you have a set). Things are about to get ugly on the road and 4WD won't save you.

When the lines are close on the topo map, the terrain is steep. Hunting new units every year to date, my scouting is done primarily from afar. The initial hike in always sucks as I relearn map reading 101. The silver lining is I usually don't see other (idiots) hunting near me.



#6307550 - 03/18/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: bbright]  
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Bring both boots.

a .270 and a .280 are not interchangable no matter how far you have driven or hiked.

Make sure any connectors needed for anything are actually there, especially gas stoves.

When your cheap azz range finder starts to slide off of a rock and over a steep cliff a 20foot fall is not worth saving it.

When you do chase your range finder over the cliff a loaded Kifaru pack does a great job at cushioning your fall, plus its comforting to know you can still eat lunch when it takes you three hours to figure out a way back up the cliff.

Check your emergency baby wipes to make sure they are not dehydrated.

Dont eat a whole bunch of mountain house meals without drinking a ton of water, your colon will thank you later.

Sleeping like a burrito in a tight bivy tent sucks.

Surgical gloves left in the pack for a year or two will totally shred when you pull them on.

Pigs may not actually be dead despite not moving for several minutes, they might just be saving themselves until you pull out the camera and grab the head to pose them.


Hunt hard, kill clean, waste nothing and offer no apologies.

"In rifle work, group size is of some interest...but it is well to remember that a rifleman does not shoot groups, he shoots shots." Jeff Cooper

#6307553 - 03/18/12 Re: What not to do..... [Re: bbright]  
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Dont leave your clip at home (that second shot you wont get could miss you your best muley to date)

Learn to shoot on steep uphill/downhill (the first shot might not go over the back of said "best muley to date")

Dont forget your raingear when hunting the West Coast

Check for cactus around "groin" level when gettin prone for shot

If your goto knife has a camo handle, dont put it down in the dark


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