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I expect (and hope) that they'd perform like a Scenar. Lots of stuff has been killed with 'em, but that doesn't really mean much  They call them a hunting bullet... http://www.matrixballistics.com/.277-Caliber-rifle-bullets.html
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True that! They DO say hunting VLD. I know they kill... the guy that sent me some to try killed a bull at 865 yds with one last year
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Interesting. That's a new addition to the website. It used to just say "VLD bullet", rather than "VLD hunting bullet".
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Noticed that as well. I was about to say that I've never heard or read them marketed as a hunting bullet when I went back and looked at the site! The few I recovered from the dirt (great test of bullet toughness/construction, I know  ) looked good compared to the SSTs I found.
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Just found some loads for .270 getting 2700fps with the 165s, I think I will jump in and see how it goes.
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v.inc, how long is your barrel? That would be a fun one to play around with for sure. Did you see the article about the guy shooting matches with the 270/165 Matrix load?
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Did not see that article but feel free to shoot me a link. Im running a 24" tube.
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Well reading that just cost me $75 for bullets and a can of H1000.  Right now Im pushing the 140 Berger at 2950fps, will have to see if the extra BC at 2700fps will play out to make a difference in the field. Are guys seeing Berger like performance on game or more like the Hornady interbonds?
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Hunt hard, kill clean, waste nothing and offer no apologies.
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The VLD's aren't a bonded bullet, if that helps answer your question...
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Well, gee....how about that  This guy thinks the 270 Win with this Matrix bullet reminds him of his 7mm WSM with 168's at long range...out past 1000? And all it takes is a 9 twist and a high BC bullet,and voila! How could this be?....the Pawn Shop cartridge hangs with the 6.5's and the 7mm's?  How'd that happen?  A smart guy on here who shoots a lot once said....."Bullets,not headstamps". ..looks like the 270 detractors, are very good at knowing....what they don't know. My smith called....my 270 with 9 twist Brux.....is....finished!
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I want some pics of the rig with the Brux complete with progress of the 165s
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Tanner I think this is really funny...considering the drubbing the old cartrige takes on here.  The rifle is a 2 hour drive away...I will get out to get it as soon as time permits.
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It's hilarious! Even with the 140-150s it can perform, and now those new 165s take it to a new level. Enough to get a guy excited
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I have used 56 of RL22 with the 160 Partition. My 165's should be in monday and will start with 55 of RL22. I am running a 1-9.25 Bartlien.
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Good stuff Rick.. I want to run the 160 someday through my WSM. That seems to be a heck of a bullet.
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It's hilarious! Even with the 140-150s it can perform, and now those new 165s take it to a new level. Enough to get a guy excited Even an old guy
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Might just be me, but I really think there is something cool about shooting LR with an old hoary cart like the 270... I may have to grab my brother's BDL for a week or two, slap a scope with a turret on it, and see what it can do Not that the 270WSM ain't the schit as well... grin
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Gee, just think...If a 270 with matrix bullets is now a long range performer, just think what a real 6.5 -or- 7mm can do with matrix bullets.
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Gee, just think...If a 270 with matrix bullets is now a long range performer, just think what a real 6.5 -or- 7mm can do with matrix bullets. Not a damned thing better, when comparing like powder capacities. Run the numbers....
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