Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles GAP .308 VS. GAP .260....Shootout!

thanks for the write up, i know im guilty of a pm or 2 about those 2 rifles

No worries!

I just shot them both at paper at 200 meters....I'll put up a pic in minute...

Not spectacular, but usable. Clean air, with winds gusting from rifle to target at 10 to 15mph. Hot here today, almost 90*F.

I'm thinkin' you might as well just box up the 308 a send it down this way...

Obviously it's not gonna cut it in a hunting situation...

I think I could slum a 308...

Very interesting thread!

It's obvious that you use top-notch components and equipment regarding rifles, optics, and ammo. What about your handloading equipment/methods? Anything special there regarding presses, dies, run-out, etc.?

Laffin' When you come up for bears next spring, stop by......I might even loan it to you.



It has killed a black bear or two......

Dats not a bruin that's a Toad!

What no 7/08...

Dober

Redding type "S" competition dies are what I use. Nothing else is very fancy.

That's what I'm thinking: Pat needs to split the difference. Then it'd be perfect!

Seriously, it's a fun thread. Nice rigs.

I thought Pat had done a GAP 7/08 a few years back but it might've been someone else.

Good to know. Thanks.

There's the 1/2 MOA or better you were talking about. Thanks for taking the time to do this Pat...rifle loonies gobble this kind of stuff up.

What's your .260 load, Pat?

Pat, you run 2000MR in the 308 yet?

It definitely gives a solid 50-75 fps over Varget and is close to Varget temp-sensitivity wise.

I've been stocking up on Varget for a while. Now I guess I better try 2000MR.

Several months ago I took your advice about RL17 in the 243 with the 80gr TTSX.......this after stocking up on H4350.....and RL17 was the winner.

Interesting results so far; based on the last picture you are running contrary to everyone�s opinion and numbers for grouping.
The 260 with the 130 bergers are far more slippery then the 308 155 scenars, yet your 200 group shows both vertical and horizontal dispersion to be smaller with the 308.

It seems to be that your comfort level with the 308 is trumping all the advantage the 260 is supposed to provide.

Good for you I am a big fan of 155 scenars and am rooting for the 308.

I think you may be drawing too much of a conclusion from the small data set you've seen.

Don't want to derail this fine thread, but curious as to data source on temp sensitivity of 2000MR? Been looking for info on that myself, and for a few other powders (AA2230, Leverevolution)

I would kindly disagree. I have based my opinion on the information presently available. A point in time comment. As it presently stands the 308 appears to be better then the 260.

Will that be the final conclusion when the test concluded most likely not. The 260 with its higher BC and faster speed will show that it will cut the wind and carry more velocity then the 308. The only question is when does the 260 over take the 308 in knock down power. 300-500 yards... sooner,later.

As to accuracy. I know from my own experience that the 308 is a more accurate round. everything else is up in the air and statistically favours the 260.

I'm gonna go out on limb and say the 260 will be first to the wire by a nose.

The 130 and 3000 fps will fair better in the conditions Montana tends to throw at a guy.

'course there seems to be some sentimental value of the Scenar. One slick pill and wakes up any .308