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I'll bet I've received 30 PM's in the past year about these two rifles. This question comes up a lot, "As your go to rifle, which would you grab, the .308 or the .260?" I thought it was time to do a real world head to head comparison. I have quite a bit of field time with the .308, with numerous big game kills and 800+ coyote kills. Last fall, all of my big game hunting was done with this lightweight GA Precision built .260. I also have a heavier .260 that I've used to take 231 coyotes with.

The two are almost identical, other than the .308 is based off a Remington short action and the .260 is a Templar(Defiance)short action. Both have Rock #3 barrels at 24". The .260 is a 1-9", the .308 is 1-11". Both are 5R. Both are stocked with Mcmillan Hunters EDGE stocks. Both rifles utilize Badger M5 bottom metal and use detactable AI mags. Both rifles sport Jewell triggers. I'm running S&B 10X42 PMII's, mil/mil, mounted in Talley LW low 30mm rings, attached with 8X40 fasteners(Remington receiver was modified for this upgrade). There is a slight difference in weight as the Templar action has a bit more steel in it(thicker in the rear section of the receiver), and the .308 barrel has a bit less steel per larger bore diameter. The .308 weighs 6 ounces less than the .260. The Templar bolt is one piece contruction and is lightly spiral fluted, The Remington handle is soldered on. The Templar extractor is an M16 style. Both rifles have "tactical" bolt handles.

The loads have been worked up and tested for both rifles and are as follows:

.308(green rifle)
155gr Lapua scenar
Lapua brass
45.5grs Varget
Wolf(Tula)LRM primer
2.810" coal
2950fps.

.260(black rifle)
130gr Berger Hunting VLD
Lapua brass
44.2grs H4350
Wolf(Tula)LRM primer
2.810" coal
3000fps.

Both rifles have proven to be sub .5" at 100 meters with the above loads.

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In the next few weeks I'll be putting these rifles up against each other in the field under many different conditions. It won't be a ballistics calculator comparison....we're all guilty of too much "paper ballistics" at times, myself included. This will be more of a practical difference comparison for hunting big game animals. All of the shooting will be from field positions without the use of a bench.


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Oh boy I am looking forward to watching this test. cool cool


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Be interesting to see how it all pans out. Is the Wolf a fairly hot primer Pat? Seems to me that you're getting a lot of speed with those charges and 24" tubes? Or are the chambers cut fairly tight?

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(did you or are you gonna make it this way 4 bruins? We saw one the other night that looked more like a black Toyota truck than a bruin. Now we just have to find him again!)

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This should be fun....

Mark,

I got very close to the same speeds with my 308 Rock barrel using FGMM primers.

I ended up backing the charge down a grain for a bit more accuracy. But I doubt the speeds have much to do with the Wolf/ Tula primers.

Can't speak for the 260 speeds though....

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Lookin' forward to this.

Thanks for taking the time.

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Looking forward to the field results - great post by the way thank you!


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Thx OSD, r you coming this way this spring?

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Originally Posted by Lonny
Lookin' forward to this.

Thanks for taking the time.


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Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
Thx OSD, r you coming this way this spring?

Dober


The bruins will get a free pass from me this year. I used my vacation time/gas money to go to Icebreaker instead.

Next year however, I'm going to try and swing both.

Been missing it.

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Pat, does this mean you'll be giving away whichever rig comes out on bottom? laugh

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Missed seeing ya this spring, how about Sept?

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Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
Be interesting to see how it all pans out. Is the Wolf a fairly hot primer Pat? Seems to me that you're getting a lot of speed with those charges and 24" tubes? Or are the chambers cut fairly tight?

Thx
Dober

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Wolf/Tula seem to be about the same as a F210M, or CCI BR2. They just closed up my ES a bit. I switched a couple years ago.

I was over your way in mid May for bears, but had to cut it short for work commitments. I did see one nice brown boar that I would have shot but he was in a tough spot and didn't give me the shot I wanted....


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Originally Posted by Tanner
Pat, does this mean you'll be giving away whichever rig comes out on bottom? laugh


That's funny right there.....grin!


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Thx Pat,

My 22" .260 is running 2877 fps with 45/H4350 and #200's and R-P brass.

Fun lil rig, may well be turned into a Swift though this summer.

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A look from the inside out...

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A look at the dope for each rifle. Range cards are laminated and glued to the bottom of the AI magazine. Range is in meters, elevation adjustment is in mils.


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I'm going to go on a limb here and say the field testing will result in dead critters. But maybe the .308 will make them deader. Just 'cause I like 308s!

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Why do i sit behind a desk for a living again?

Cant wait to see the results pat. I could be happy with either of those rifles...

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That is a lot of coyotes.

You didn't get the memo about blue tape?

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I'm thinking it's more like the Yotes didn't get the memmo...grin

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