Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
#6592617 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: battue]  
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,017
pullit Offline
Campfire Tracker
pullit  Offline
Campfire Tracker

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,017
Middle/West Tennessee
Your results are close to mine, I get around 1400-1500 rounds thru my 391's before I have a hull hang in the ejection port. A quick wipe of the gas system and I am good to go for a few hundred more rounds.
A good cleaning of the barrel piston and extension and I am set for about 1500 more rounds.

I like you feel guilty letting one run that many rounds before cleaning it.


I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects

I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
CMG 300 BP

#6592632 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: battue]  
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
MontanaCreekHunter Offline
Campfire Outfitter
MontanaCreekHunter  Offline
Campfire Outfitter

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
99821/06810
Originally Posted by battue
The Beretta 391 will be no longer produced in a couple years and will be replaced by the XCell 400. This comes from a high volume Beretta dealer.

Will the XCell out perform the 391? So far from around March of this year I've put approximately 4000 rounds thru mine. It has hiccuped twice. Last run was around 2000 rounds without cleaning, other than wiping it down. No malfunctions. I cleaned it the other day, just because I was starting to feel guilty. The trigger mechanism was remarkably clean. When I used to shoot a SuperX Model 1, the trigger would look like a dirty grease pit after that many rounds. The chamber area had no visible pitting. The new gas piston cleaned up quickly. Essentially doused it in Clenzoil, let it sit for 5minutes and wiped the carbon build up off. Did have to spend some time getting the carbon buildup off the inside of the barrel extension that holds the piston.

Have had 391s that wouldn't hang with this sample of one XCell for malfunctions and staying clean. Although talking with other shooters who are using them, it seems to be typical.

I think Beretta has hit a home run with the new version.

Addition: A guy I was shooting with the other day had some of the Winchester "Feather" shotshells, which are light kickers that only go 980fps. I tried them in the XCell. They functioned. The cycling was definitely slow, but function they did. However, I'm sure they wouldn't function reliably over the long haul.


Battue I know a few guys other then you shooting the XCell and all love it so far. I might have to pick one up soon.


Eat Fish, Wear Grundens, Drink Alaskan.
#6592682 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: MontanaCreekHunter]  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
battue Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
battue  Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
outside the burgh
Downsides so far, the trigger is not all that crisp and the hammer has a long way to go to connect with the firing pin. Guessing the trigger can be improved slightly by someone who knows how, but I'm used to it. You also get used to the longer lock time rather quickly.


laissez les bons temps rouler
#6593256 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: battue]  
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
MontanaCreekHunter Offline
Campfire Outfitter
MontanaCreekHunter  Offline
Campfire Outfitter

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
99821/06810
Well hopefully we can find a sporting clays shoot this season we both have time to make. Then I can give yours a whirl.


Eat Fish, Wear Grundens, Drink Alaskan.
#6593321 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: MontanaCreekHunter]  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
battue Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
battue  Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
outside the burgh
Pa state shoot is July 12-15th at the Rock. I already have room reservations. Would be a good one. Probably close to equal distance for both of us.

Last edited by battue; 06/14/12.

laissez les bons temps rouler
Alpha

#6593651 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: battue]  
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
MontanaCreekHunter Offline
Campfire Outfitter
MontanaCreekHunter  Offline
Campfire Outfitter

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
99821/06810
I might be able to make that one. Always a fun place to shoot. Wait that was the last place we shoot together! LOL


Eat Fish, Wear Grundens, Drink Alaskan.
#6593653 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: MontanaCreekHunter]  
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 46,783
Redneck Offline
Campfire Oracle
Redneck  Offline
Campfire Oracle

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 46,783
WI.
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
I know for a fact I have put 150 flats thru one of my Benelli's in just over a year and thats only counting clays shooting. Not a single hick-up.
Geez, I hope you take time out every few days for a sandwich.. laugh laugh

That's a lot of shootin'....


NRA Benefactor member.

Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69
#6593827 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: Redneck]  
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
MontanaCreekHunter Offline
Campfire Outfitter
MontanaCreekHunter  Offline
Campfire Outfitter

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
99821/06810
Redneck I eat as much as I shoot. Just ask Battue!


Eat Fish, Wear Grundens, Drink Alaskan.
#6593918 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: orion03]  
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,882
GF1 Offline
Campfire Guide
GF1  Offline
Campfire Guide

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,882
Originally Posted by orion03
As far as double guns go you get what you pay for in the Italian market. From my experience the lower priced guns are nothing to write home about.


Depends where you draw your line as to lower end. I have used the Beretta 68_ series for over 20 years and find them outstanding; have four at this moment in various dress. Nothing close on the market for my use.

#6593937 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: MontanaCreekHunter]  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
battue Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
battue  Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
outside the burgh
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
Redneck I eat as much as I shoot. Just ask Battue!


Since January, I've gone through around 40. Just ordered 20 flats today. It takes a concentrated effort to keep up. grin

Agree on the 68- series Beretta. One fellow I knew awhile back had 100,000plus out of his before he had it overhauled, and he was not all that gentle when he locked it up.

Last edited by battue; 06/14/12.

laissez les bons temps rouler
Bravo

#6593946 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: MontanaCreekHunter]  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
battue Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
battue  Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
outside the burgh
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
I might be able to make that one. Always a fun place to shoot. Wait that was the last place we shoot together! LOL


You sure the last place wasn't Hill n Dale?


laissez les bons temps rouler
#6593991 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: battue]  
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
MontanaCreekHunter Offline
Campfire Outfitter
MontanaCreekHunter  Offline
Campfire Outfitter

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
99821/06810
I believe we shot Hill n Dale then Rock Mountian but I could be wrong. Damn now you know I have to go look it up on the NSCA website.


Eat Fish, Wear Grundens, Drink Alaskan.
#6594003 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: MontanaCreekHunter]  
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
MontanaCreekHunter Offline
Campfire Outfitter
MontanaCreekHunter  Offline
Campfire Outfitter

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
99821/06810
Just checked it out. Hill n Dale was 06-05-2011 and Rock Mountain was 07-31-2011. I have the PA state shoot on my calander, will do my best to make it. Are you squaded yet?


Eat Fish, Wear Grundens, Drink Alaskan.
#6594022 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: MontanaCreekHunter]  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
battue Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
battue  Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
outside the burgh
I put it in on Winscore 3 weeks ago, but as of today they don't have me listed. I called Rock Mountain but got the answering machine. Just myself for now and maybe one other guy, but I doubt if he will be able to get loose from the chain.

PM me your NSCA number and I will put you on with a deposit. You can always cancel if you can't make it.

Last edited by battue; 06/14/12.

laissez les bons temps rouler
#6594029 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: battue]  
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
MontanaCreekHunter Offline
Campfire Outfitter
MontanaCreekHunter  Offline
Campfire Outfitter

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
99821/06810
Is the other guy DAN? I hope so he is a riot.


Eat Fish, Wear Grundens, Drink Alaskan.
#6594042 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: MontanaCreekHunter]  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
battue Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
battue  Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
outside the burgh
No, Dan is running a club in Ohio and can't get away as often.
The boy can shoot. Shot with him last month and it was a blast.


laissez les bons temps rouler
#6594057 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: battue]  
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
MontanaCreekHunter Offline
Campfire Outfitter
MontanaCreekHunter  Offline
Campfire Outfitter

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
99821/06810
Is that the club down south of Columbus? Yeah he is a fun guy and can shoot for sure.


Eat Fish, Wear Grundens, Drink Alaskan.
#6594163 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: MontanaCreekHunter]  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
battue Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
battue  Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
outside the burgh
Cardinal Shooting Center. Not sure where it is actually located.


laissez les bons temps rouler
#6594286 - 06/14/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: battue]  
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
MontanaCreekHunter Offline
Campfire Outfitter
MontanaCreekHunter  Offline
Campfire Outfitter

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,754
99821/06810
Yeah I think that is the one down south of Columbus. Thats a sweet job for him.


Eat Fish, Wear Grundens, Drink Alaskan.
#6595059 - 06/15/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: battue]  
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 98
WJN Offline
Member
WJN  Offline
Member

Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 98
Tallahassee, Fl.
They have already discontinued the Beretta 3901 RL which was the only gun that fit my wife. She uses it to trap shoot and loves it. Almost no recoil. You can find these but beware they don't have Beretta barrels now (they are putting Stoeger barrel on the ones they are unloading). The forend fit is terrible so I bought her a Beretta barrel. There are does and don't on lubrication of the gas operated Beretta.

This is a video by Rick Gump the service manager of BerettaUSA regarding the Beretta 391 maintenance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6U4FAs51tM

#6615436 - 06/22/12 Re: Quality of Italian semi-auto shotguns? [Re: battue]  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
battue Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
battue  Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,997
outside the burgh
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
Redneck I eat as much as I shoot. Just ask Battue!


Since January, I've gone through around 40. Just ordered 20 flats today. It takes a concentrated effort to keep up. grin



These just arrived yesterday and since I was down to two boxes, it's a good thing. One flat is gone already.

[Linked Image]



laissez les bons temps rouler
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  RickBin, SYSOP 

AIH 160 1
Who's Online Now
583 registered members (10ring1, 17Hunter, 10gaugemag, 02bfishn, 77 invisible), 1,620 guests, and 461 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod









Copyright © 2000-2018 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
 
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.110s Queries: 15 (0.006s) Memory: 1.0396 MB (Peak: 1.3365 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-11-20 00:02:47 UTC