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I will be found in the 870 camp.
I do like a model 12 but like the 870 better. I also like the 37's but then again not too many shotguns I don't like.
I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects
I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
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Am enjoying all (well, almost all) of the comments. There is a Model 12, 12 gauge field model, corn shucker forend, at the local gun shop. It makes me drool, and it feels great. But, it is not cheap.
I'm a Wingmaster man. Drooled after one for years, owned two, still have one. But, as I've said, I like pump shotguns. I even like Mossberg 500s....and I know their shortcomings. The fore-end kept breaking loose on the Coast-to-Coast Model 880 (really a 500) I once owned. But it and I shared some fond memories.
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Lotsa good pump guns, but my long-time and continuing favorite remains the Winchester Model 12.
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Being left handed, I vote for the Ithaca 37 for several reasons. First it is bottom ejection, so the spent case is right in front of me and not in the bushes somewhere to the side. Second, I have never had another shotgun point as well for me as the 37. Third, it is lighter and handier to carry. And fourth, a left hand safety makes it a truly left hand shotgun.
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My pumps are:
BPS-12 great gun, solid but a little heavy and bulky.
Ithaca 37-12MAG great gun
Ithaca 37-16 great bird gun light, easy to carry and shoot
Mossberg 500-12 great utility gun
Rem 870-20MAG greta gun in all respects
Ithaca's have tendency to crack where buttstock meets metal.
BPS is my favorite duck blind gun
Mossberg is good for a CHEAPIE gun. Not exactly a cadillac.
Rem 870 IMO is THE all around do anything last forever pump gun.
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My safe has a 20 guage 870 youth, an Ithaca 37 20 guage, an Ithaca 37 16 guage, a BPS 20 guage, and my wife's grandpas old High Standard 12 I think it is. Formerly had a pair of 870 12 guages, Express and Wingmaster.
To me, the Ithaca 37 20 guage is the Holy Grail of all day walks. It kills wild Kansas roosters just fine as well.
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I have two 870 WingMasters in my safe..12 and 16 ga.Both are in pristine condition, but have been shot quite a bit. I really like them. That being said, if some one was to offer to trade me straight up for Model 12s in same condition, The 870s would be gone. Not because of the monetary value difference, because the Model 12 is the smoothest pump ever made. and the ones I have been lucky enough to handle and shoot have all pointed very naturally for me.I did have a field grade Remington 31 many moons ago that was a joy to shoot. Best pump gun ever?...I'm just happy we have so many to debate over 
Then you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.
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A lie doesn't become truth; wrong doesn't become right; evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by the majority...Rick Warren
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I agree : Winchester M-12, Ithaca 37, and Remington 870. I used a borrowed 20ga M-12 for a number of years and loved it. I never was able to afford one. I have owned numerous 870s and presently have 2: a 12 ga with English style buttstock, and a Turkey Express with the 21 " barrel. I have a an Ithaca 37 Bicentennial
model with all the bluing gone that I bought 3 decades ago for $60.00. It fits me perfectly. I just wish it had screw in chokes
like the 870. Look up Rudy Etchen (?)not sure of the last name spelling. He set all his records with the same 870. An ungodly number of registered shots all through the same 870. It's a workhorse. It really holds up under MS Delta duckhunting conditions (gumbo mud).
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I agree : Winchester M-12, Ithaca 37, and Remington 870. I used a borrowed 20ga M-12 for a number of years and loved it. I never was able to afford one. I have owned numerous 870s and presently have 2: a 12 ga with English style buttstock, and a Turkey Express with the 21 " barrel. I have a an Ithaca 37 Bicentennial
model with all the bluing gone that I bought 3 decades ago for $60.00. It fits me perfectly. I just wish it had screw in chokes
like the 870. Look up Rudy Etchen (?)not sure of the last name spelling. He set all his records with the same 870. An ungodly number of registered shots all through the same 870. It's a workhorse. It really holds up under MS Delta duckhunting conditions (gumbo mud). And his daddy led the U.S. Olympic trap team to gold in 1920...shooting a Model 12.
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Win. 97 far and away best rabbit and quail gun .
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The first one, the one your father/uncle/grandfather gave to you.
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Model 31 Remington, then 870, then a model 37 Ithaca, then a model 97 and finally a model 12 and BPS...I owned them all and use each, but that is my order of favorites....
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Remington 31,
Win Model 12 finally Ithaca 37 in that order.
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Model 12, specifically the old 16ga. I think it was on a 20ga frame. Few balance better and that includes some expensive high end shotguns. Reliability is a given.
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weatherby pa 08 best pump gun i own and i have a 870 887 and a moss 835
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Model 12, specifically the old 16ga. I think it was on a 20ga frame. Few balance better and that includes some expensive high end shotguns. Reliability is a given. Spot on...mine is a plain Jane 16 w/ 28" modified choke barrel that weighs right at 6 1/2#, perfect chukar gun.
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Remington 31, no doubt. The Model 12 feels clunky.
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