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Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? Mark R Dobrenski #6779357 08/15/12
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bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,009 Battle Born	Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski Originally Posted by gunnut308 .308 Winchester running 165's .308's are usually goofy accurate. I really like 165's or 150's but you can run 130's up to the 208's and break shoulders on any deer or elk if needed. Recoil won't send you to the physical therapist. Ammo is found anywhere. Brass is easy to come by. They feed like a fat boy at a buffet. Whats not to love Not a thing mo need be said... Dober Not like you Dober....You know you wanted to say 150 hornady interlock and go fill some arks.... Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

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Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? scotts94_z28 #6779358 08/15/12
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jwall Campfire Ranger J Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas	Originally Posted by scotts94_z28 Actually lapua makes 6.5-284 brass that is so good people have been necking it up to use in their 284 Okay - I don't feel there is any ? about lapua quality. If brass cost is acceptable, the 6.5-284 would be a GREAT round. * IMO the 308 W is limited in powder capacity for the bullet dia. There is less velocity (speed). jwall- * 3100 guy*** A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? jwall #6779377 08/15/12
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gunnut308 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 8,642 Ouachita Mtns, AR	Originally Posted by jwall [quote=scotts94_z28] *** IMO the 308 W is limited in powder capacity for the bullet dia. There is less velocity (speed).

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? bsa1917hunter #6779380 08/15/12
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 28,277 Bozeman, Montana Mark R Dobrenski Campfire Ranger
Mark R Dobrenski Campfire Ranger Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 28,277 Bozeman, Montana	I"m getting less fussy about bullets but still like to fill Arks... Dober "True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? jwall #6779388 08/15/12
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,263 Brad Campfire 'Bwana
Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,263	Originally Posted by jwall IMO the 308 W is limited in powder capacity for the bullet dia. There is less velocity (speed). LOL, that's the kind of thinking reading too much Guns And Ammo on the toilet leads to... “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? Brad #6779409 08/15/12
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gunnut308 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 8,642 Ouachita Mtns, AR	Pretty sure this guy stepped in front of a Hornady Interlock 150

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? gunnut308 #6779416 08/15/12
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 28,277 Bozeman, Montana Mark R Dobrenski Campfire Ranger
Mark R Dobrenski Campfire Ranger Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 28,277 Bozeman, Montana	He lost... Guess he didn't read the memo about limited case cap for the round...grin Dober Last edited by Mark R Dobrenski; 08/15/12. "True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? Mark R Dobrenski #6779427 08/15/12
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gunnut308 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 8,642 Ouachita Mtns, AR	Ha!...Yep...."Terminal Speed Limit" has credits for many kills

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? gunnut308 #6779437 08/15/12
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 28,277 Bozeman, Montana Mark R Dobrenski Campfire Ranger
Mark R Dobrenski Campfire Ranger Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 28,277 Bozeman, Montana	Terminal speed limit, I like that Dober "True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? Brad #6779442 08/15/12
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jwall Campfire Ranger J Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas	Originally Posted by Brad Originally Posted by jwall IMO the 308 W is limited in powder capacity for the bullet dia. There is less velocity (speed). LOL, that's the kind of thinking reading too much Guns And Ammo on the toilet leads to... Hey Brad - It's been so long since I even held a G & A I can't remember. I've had 308 and had/have an Oehler 33. Can anyone deny the 284 W capacity is greater than a 308 W? Seat a 7mm - 140 OR 150 and compare PLUS the SD & BC are better. YMMV Jerry jwall- * 3100 guy* A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!

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Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? Kimber7man #6779449 08/15/12
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Oregonmuley Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,464 jennings lodge, oregon	Originally Posted by Kimber7man I'd go 7mm-08.. Yup that be the ticket:) "Rather hunt Mule deer than anything else" "Team 7MM-08"

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? jwall #6779458 08/15/12
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lhead71 Campfire Regular L Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,035 Ct	260 Rem, 7mm-08, 308 Win, all will do what you want and more if you ever decide to stretch them out. Enough already, just shoot it!

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? jwall #6779469 08/15/12
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gunnut308 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 8,642 Ouachita Mtns, AR	265 fps and a 125gr Muzzy is where he found his "Terminal Speed Limit" Broken horned baby 4x4, but I'll never forget the hunt...

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? jwall #6779474 08/15/12
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,263 Brad Campfire 'Bwana
Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,263	Originally Posted by jwall YMMV Jerry Yup, my mileage varies because I've actually killed coyotes, antelope, mule deer, and elk out to just over 400 yards with the 308. “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? gunnut308 #6779483 08/15/12
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jwall Campfire Ranger J Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas	Originally Posted by gunnut308 265 fps and a 125gr Muzzy is where he found his "Terminal Speed Limit" ? At 400 yds ? Still better than any elk I've killed with ANYTHING. jwall- * 3100 guy* A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? Brad #6779491 08/15/12
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jwall Campfire Ranger J Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas	Originally Posted by Brad Yup, my mileage varies because I've actually killed coyotes, antelope, mule deer, and elk out to just over 400 yards with the 308. I didn't say the 308 could not do it. I just like the 284W and 7mm bullets better. jwall- * 3100 guy* A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? Jordan Smith #6779501 08/15/12
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M7300SAUM Campfire Regular M Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 667	Originally Posted by Jordan Smith .243, .25-06, or .260 Then again, I only have experience with our puny AB deer... I would think that you have to seat those bullets pretty deep for a short action 25-06. I think an accurate Model 7 in 260 or 7mm-08 would be a fine choice for the OP.

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? jwall #6779504 08/15/12
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gunnut308 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 8,642 Ouachita Mtns, AR	He was a very looooong 22 yards, but he came from about 400 looking for the lonely horny cow mewing in the bushes. Then he got a free ride from Montrose, CO to my freezer.

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? M7300SAUM #6779513 08/15/12
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Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,481 Calgary, AB, Canada	Originally Posted by M7300SAUM Originally Posted by Jordan Smith .243, .25-06, or .260 Then again, I only have experience with our puny AB deer... I would think that you have to seat those bullets pretty deep for a short action 25-06. I think an accurate Model 7 in 260 or 7mm-08 would be a fine choice for the OP. It's called a .25-06-08 I missed the SA stipulation, but a 7-08 would be a fine substitute.

Re: Best Short Action caliber rife for Mule Deer/White tail out to 400 yrds???? Jordan Smith #6779567 08/15/12
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OP RatherBHuntin Campfire Tracker R Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,902	Is the 284 a short action or just a shorter cartridge in a "long action"??? Sounds intresting.

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