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Any suggestions for a long range scope for my 7short that keeps the backpacking weight tolerable?

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How long you wanting to go with it?

First blush, I'd say a CDS if going to 700 or so, and a M1 if you intend to go longer.

I'd go with a 6x36 Leo or 2-8 Leo and be quite happy with it. Fact is I have a 2-8 with M1 on it now and have a 6x36 going in for a CDS soon.

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I've pondered the same thing with my 7 SAUM.

I have a Leupold 3.5x10 on it, and the problem is that I love this scope and anything else seems like too much of a compromise to be worth the couple of ounces of weight savings.

I'll check in on the suggestions though, who knows?

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I'd be doing a 3.5-10x40 Leo with an M1 or target turret up top. That'll do it all out to 1,000.

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I have a Leupold 2.5-8x36 with M1s that I've been happy with. Probably 14 oz or so with the M1s.

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the swaro Z3 line is lite scope that performs very well.
4-12x50=14.5oz
3-10x42=12.67oz
I had a z3 and liked it very well. I traded up to a z5 for the magnification. I had the bt turrent on both and it really works well.
If you want more magnifiacation the Z5 are pretty light as well.
5-25x52=17.5oz
3.3-18x44=15.9oz


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If I were you, I'd call the Dbag in Wisc about getting one of the VX3s with CDS that he (IIRC) has on sale. The 3.5-10X40 model would be a good fit if you wanted more top end than the 2.5-8X36 recommended above.

Is this scope for your current 7 WSM or the one you ordered?

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Tyler,

This will be for the one I ordered. I have a VX3 CDS 4.5-14 on my Kimber 7 Short.

I will be spending a week with DBag in Colorado in 10 days, so I will run this by him as well.

I like the sounds of the Swaro, but not sure what kind of range the system is applicable for. I am hoping for something out to 6 or 700 yards, but for big game hunting I don't intend to stretch it past 500.

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help an old guy out here. im just not up to speed on all this alphabet soup stuff. i have quite a few leupolds mostly old
and im very familiar with m1s and target turrets. i have a few
from back when with premier dots also. but i dont know what cds means.
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CDS on the left. this is the moa version. CDS=Custom Dial System. if you send Leupold your specifics, they will send you a knob marked in yards instead of moa

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Toad-for the CDS do you send Leo the scope or just order the dials?

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you have to send in the scope for the CDS conversion, but for the custom knob, you have to supply the ballistic info (bullet, MV, elevation, temp, ect...)


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Miller- If you're happy with that scope, I'd put the same thing on the new rifle as it will probably be heavier than what you have now. You should be safe with balance.


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Originally Posted by yobuck
but i dont know what cds means.
thanks

They mark your dial with your pre-worked up load. Bullet type, weight, sea level elevation, speed on top. The numbers are the yardages ( x 100). Just dial to your range and they are damned close to bang on.

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Rapid Z 600. No need for knobs.


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Nightforce 2.5-10x32 (22oz). Or man up and get the 3.5-15x50 (30 oz). If you're a turret twister they're great and reliable. If you prefer to holdover on your longer range shots, the Rapid z works great.

The guy east of you goes with the straight 10 power S&B which give you the best of the turrets and light weight. Pretty sweet scopes too if you don't mind not having a variable power scope.

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I'd look at the Zeiss 3.5-10, either in 600yd rapid z or standard reticle, I believe right now if you buy a Zeiss Conquest you get a free upgrade for a custom turret.

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I've decided to try the Steiner 2.5-10X44.

I have to say I'm impressed. Super lowlight performance.
Super clarity and contrast.
Etched ret.
The Steiner Plex S1 ret. is very nice. Holdovers and Holdoffs.

I picked this because there are turret caps very low profile and you can still spin clicks if you wish.

Pretty light ( 18 oz.) and compact and it sits on a light and compact rig as well.

For 8 bills it's worth a look!

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I'm in a similar position. I am looking at Zeiss, swaro or the Steiner coca is running. I currently have a swaro z5 with the BT and it works really well. Little long but all else is nice. Are custom turrets available for the Steiner? I have heard great things about that glass! Is it the dual or single spring setup?

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Good question. I'm not exactly sure.

The ret. is so versatile that I don't think I'll ever twist the turrets. This rig is more than likely limited to 600 yards.

chip shot eh..? ;-)

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