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#6843926 - 09/05/12 Re: Best Bullet for 35 Whelen [Re: Royce]  
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I've used them both quite a bit and the Whelen just will not allow space in the safe for its much lesser sire. For smaller game there's not much to choose from, but on bigger stuff I see too much difference to choose the lesser cartridge......


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#6844651 - 09/05/12 Re: Best Bullet for 35 Whelen [Re: 406_SBC]  
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Well, my go to load in my .35 Whelen Mauser is the 225 gr. Barnes TSX over 60.4 gr. of RE15. Vekocity is 2710 FPS and they gather in .50 to .75" clusters at 100 yards. I've only shot one cow elk with it so far and it was one of the most spectacular drop a critter on the spot dead I've ever seen in 63 years of hunting. Shot my first deer in 1949 with my Great-grandfather's only M94 30-03 and it was in 2010 that I dropped the cow elk. Beem quite a fw deer, a couple other elks and one speed goat during all those years but none that I can remember went down as fast as that elk. You don't have to guess what I'll be using for elk this year. grin It may not be that Whelen but it will be a Whelen. I haven't taken anything with my Remington 700 Classic yet so maybe I'll take that one. I still have to take the Ruger M77 in the Whelen to my gunsmith's to have the headspace checked. Dunno if it was just a bad factroy round or if there is a problem but I did have a total case head separation with a 200 gr. Remington factory load in that rifle.
Someone commented that a persons load was what? 6 grains above book max? Doesn't surprise me a bit. Just another Remington screw up IMHO. Methinks the SAAMI specs are kept deliberately low because of all the old 1903 Springfields, 1895 Winchester and Remington pumps and semi-autos chambered to the round. I do believe the Whelen can be loaded a bit warmer than that. My load leaves primers nice and round, CHE and CRE are neglible and cases last a long time. What's not to like?
If I were to go with cup and core bullets, I'd just use any standard 250 out there. At even top veocity they should hold together just fine on most game. Maybe this year I might take the M700 with either the 250 gr. Hot Core or the Hornady IL, depending on which one the rifle likes. Might even try the Hornady RN just for spits and grins. Should work just fine for shots at 200 yards or less.
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#6847198 - 09/06/12 Re: Best Bullet for 35 Whelen [Re: PJGunner]  
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The only slug I was disappointed in with a Whelen was the 280aframe. Pushed at 2350fps it showed minimal expansion on a couple of pigs so I gave up on it. One pig was shot at a quartering angle, hit the shoulder and exited a ham but left a pretty minimal hole. If it had not smashed so much bone I would really be concerned about it not opening up.

Seems like the 280 might need something like a .358WSM or .358STA to make it shine.


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#6847216 - 09/06/12 Re: Best Bullet for 35 Whelen [Re: varmintsinc]  
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That's exactly the sort of cartridge the 280 A-Frame was made for. I've shot it in the .358 Norma and .358 STA and they give it enough oomph to open easily. The slow twist of the typical Whelen doesn't help it open up, either.


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#6847506 - 09/06/12 Re: Best Bullet for 35 Whelen [Re: Mule Deer]  
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The beuaty of the whelen is it doesn't push bullets fast enough to really tax them, and it's enough gun to get the job done. Pick a 225 or 250 gr bullet, work up a load with RL15, Varget or another suitable powder and put the pill where it needs to go.

I'm currently running 225 sierras in my short whelen (350 rem mag) because my load work was complete with one range session. One of these days I'll work up a load with the 250 hornadies and a-frames on the shelf.


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#6849219 - 09/07/12 Re: Best Bullet for 35 Whelen [Re: 458 Lott]  
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I have two Whelens. A Remington 7600 and a custom mauser. I prefer the 250 grain bullets. I shoot 250 Hornady round nose bullets from my 7600 using RL 15. My mauser loves Speer Hot Core and Nosler partitions also with RL 15. The whelen is my favorite big game cartridge to hunt with. I have killed bear and piles of deer with mine.

#6853464 - 09/08/12 Re: Best Bullet for 35 Whelen [Re: Whelenman]  
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Originally Posted by Whelenman
Originally Posted by efw
To what extent does rate of twist effect a Whelen's ability to stabilize 250s? Does that only come into play on longer bullets than that?

I've been thinkin hard on a 1 in 14" twisted mauser that appears to be priced right by a local shop.


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