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I'm thinking if you could push a 120 tsx @ 2700 out of a 7-30 Waters it wouldn't suck.

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Originally Posted by Marc
Hey, we finally found someone who does not have the bug, yet. These chaps are especially useful in that any Sears 30-30 they come across is in no danger of going home with them. This makes them an excellent informant and someone to keep on your contact list. Say Fireball2, I wonder if you could be on the lookout for any Sears's 30-30's for me? grin grin grin


Sure Marc. It's probably a great idea to be able to shoot a wide pattern to increase your chances of a hit. I've always just preferred one shot that goes where it's pointed, but everyone has a little different shooting style. grin grin grin grin grin


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Originally Posted by Vic_in_Va
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A proper .30-30:

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I've never entertained the thought of spitzers. This one shoots too good with Hornady 170 FPs to even think about something else.


All joking aside, nothing wrong with a 30/30. They make a fine...uh...well, they work really good for um... that is they are splendid little...er.... They are light.


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I've killed over 60 deer with my .30-30's and it's worked well every time. My Marlin is scoped and is an honest MOA rifle with it's favored loads. My receiver sighted 94 won't do quite so well but I can average just about an inch and a half at 100 and 4" at 200 with it.

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Originally Posted by Blackheart
I've killed over 60 deer with my .30-30's and it's worked well every time. My Marlin is scoped and is an honest MOA rifle with it's favored loads. My receiver sighted 94 won't do quite so well but I can average just about an inch and a half at 100 and 4" at 200 with it.


Excellent record and accuracy, more than good enough for anything within the range limitations of a 30/30. I'm just ribbing the 30/30 guys. I've got a couple myself, including a tiny little 1/2 magazine 16" model 94. Very handy little gun. I always end up hunting with something else, but not because these wouldn't work.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
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I've killed over 60 deer with my .30-30's and it's worked well every time. My Marlin is scoped and is an honest MOA rifle with it's favored loads. My receiver sighted 94 won't do quite so well but I can average just about an inch and a half at 100 and 4" at 200 with it.


Excellent record and accuracy, more than good enough for anything within the range limitations of a 30/30. I'm just ribbing the 30/30 guys. I've got a couple myself, including a tiny little 1/2 magazine 16" model 94. Very handy little gun. I always end up hunting with something else, but not because these wouldn't work.


You are so despicable...read that, I am jealous.

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If I was really interested in going the pointed bullet route in a tubular magazine I would run 1 in the chamber and 1 in the tube!

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I ran pointed bullets in my Winchester 30-30 for years, using a Speer lead tip spitzer bullet. Never an issue (I didn't know better back then) grin

I later discovered that the round nose or flat nose bullet are better at lever gun velocities so I discontinued use of pointed bullets.

I didn't find any advantage with the Leverevolution ammo, another marketing ploy.

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Originally Posted by safariman
I was mosty checking to see if anyone else had read these articles and maybe started using some aerodynamic bullets for a change. Seems like not yet.


Since I started reloading, I usually use spitzers in my 30-30. Right now I'm on a FMJ kick... but I don't load them in my tube magazine, the COL is too long to cycle through the action.


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It would be difficult, after fifty years of not loading pointy bullets in a tubular magazine, to use spitzers. I would probably flinch and its hard to shoot accurately when you hold the gun with one hand.

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No, I'm retarded that way, I shoot flat nosed lead and jacketed bullets from my levers, I have scoped bolts to stretch range with.

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I just obtained the donor rifle, a homely - almost ugly - birchwood stocked but more importantly to me pre safety model 94 30/30 and a set of Redfield peep sights with a Lyman 17 Globe front sight set up. It will soon be my 30/.30AI with 130gr TTSX bullets experimental rifle.


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10-4, I know you'll be careful Mark, but doesnt Hornady make safe pointy bullets for levers?

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They do, but I can run a 130TTSX much faster than a (apx) 165 Hornaday Flex tip, and it will hit harder and penetrate better. Plus, be different from anything else out there smile

I might even Moly them to help with speed a little, and I am DEFINATELY doing the Ultra Bore Coat treatment after I firelap and re chamber the barrel <G>


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Buy a cheap 308 bolt or single action and load whatever you want.


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Originally Posted by safariman
They do, but I can run a 130TTSX much faster than a (apx) 165 Hornaday Flex tip, and it will hit harder and penetrate better. Plus, be different from anything else out there smile
The last I knew Hornady was making a 140 grain flex tip GMX bullet specifically for use in the .30-30. Those would likely be your best bet for combining high velocity with a mono metal bullet in your new lever action.

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Once you have tried the Savage 99 and the rotary mag., You will lose interest in any tube magazine relic.

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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by safariman
They do, but I can run a 130TTSX much faster than a (apx) 165 Hornaday Flex tip, and it will hit harder and penetrate better. Plus, be different from anything else out there smile
The last I knew Hornady was making a 140 grain flex tip GMX bullet specifically for use in the .30-30. Those would likely be your best bet for combining high velocity with a mono metal bullet in your new lever action.



Now THAT could be a cool opetion too! I had not heard that yet, thanks.


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Once you have tried the Savage 99 and the rotary mag., You will lose interest in any tube magazine relic.


Snagged some dies, brass etc for that 250/3000 rifle headed my way at this weekends gun show. Also an older slightly purpled Loopy 2-7x32 that I think will look and work just right on it as well.

The 250/3000 has a different nich and scrathces an entirely different itch, however.


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Fwiw...the 3030 has alot of unneeded case neck length. It can easily be trimmed back about .075" ....that's enough to let you seat many spitzers and still maintain a normal cartridge length. Heck that's what hornady does to get there leverevolution bullets to work...shorter brass from the factory. Still wouldn't load more than one in the barrel and one in the tube....maybe Bambi should go free if you can't connect in two shots.

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