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The animal you shoot will never know the differance. The real differance is only on paper and maybe in your mind.


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I've had a 300 wby on a sako and a 300 rum on a sendero. Both were fast and accurate but that sendero had a super nasty fast kick with 200 nabs at almost 3200fps. I don't have either now anymore. If you can't do it with a 150gr mono out of a 30/06 at ~3000fps you need a bigger bullet imo. Not a faster one. I have now skipped the 30 cals all together (other than the 30-30) and use a 7mm rm for smaller stuff and a 338 wm for bigger stuff. The 338 wm btw weighs ~7.5lbs ready to hunt and is much nicer to shoot than either of my fast 30's.

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When I decided to get a .300 I thought it would be a Win. I'm not a fan of belted cartridges but that's just me. I also read some where that the .300 Win. Mag. has taken more game then any magnum made. What turns me on with the RUM is it's a 30.06's big brother, and as .300's go at top of food chain.If Rem. never brought it out I'ed be carryin a Win.....later

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The price of the ammo. Haven't seen any 300 Weatherby at Wallyworld yet for $20 a box. Not holding my breath for that also . On the killing end, i bet their aren't any animals that can see the difference either. Magnum man

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Originally Posted by RinB
These are great names... 416 Rigby, 375 Holland & Holland, 300 Weatherby, 220 Swift. Need I say more?

Maybe if nostalgia is of interest. The 22-250 is really a better round than the swift, the ultra is better than the Bee and a 416 rem mag is much more practical than a Rigby. The .375... no warts on that one!

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These are great names... 416 Rigby, 375 Holland & Holland, 300 Weatherby, 220 Swift. Need I say more?
Maybe if nostalgia is of interest. The 22-250 is really a better round than the swift...


How is the .22-250 better than the .220 Swift, nostalgia, performance, etc., all being considered?

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I have the same question.


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Are any rifles currently chambered for 220 swift? Is ammo widely available?
Besides that, the 220 brass I have dealt with absolutely sucked, not to mention the amount of case trimming required given the case design. Last but not least, there is very little actual velocity increase over the 22-250. IME anyways.

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Originally Posted by 17ACKLEYBEE
The animal you shoot will never know the differance. The real differance is only on paper and maybe in your mind.


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Yep -

IF a Win Mag won't kill it.....


you need much more than a Bee!!


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General reply, not at jwall.:
Always amazes, or confuses, me that guys pi$$ and moan about one to two dollars worth of brass and powder when this subject comes up. Same guys show up at range with $50,000.00 + diesel rigs, complete with lift package, steam ship exhuast pipes, and useless tires.
I wanted a 300Bee, so I got one. Vanguard SUB MOA with B&C stock, Decel pad, about 8 pounds with scope. Shoots great, and yes, no animal will know the difference.



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Its not the price for me, I just dont buy into weatherby's and its not from lack of trying.

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calikook -

All that matters is that You or I am happy.

This thread is about the differences for big game between the 2 cartridges.

I have NOT checked recently but the last time I did, the Wby brass was noticeably higher than Win mag.

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Originally Posted by BWalker
Are any rifles currently chambered for 220 swift? Is ammo widely available?
Besides that, the 220 brass I have dealt with absolutely sucked, not to mention the amount of case trimming required given the case design. Last but not least, there is very little actual velocity increase over the 22-250. IME anyways.


I use W/W brass in my Ruger #1. Good stuff, no problems. Plenty of ammo available at my shop.

I'm not knocking the .22-250, as it's a great round. But, as you framed your statement, implying that the .220 Swift is somehow a lesser round, I was taken aback somewhat. The .220 Swift has a distinguished history and performance record. Mine is a keeper.

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I am sure yours is a keeper, but time has passed the swift buy and the 22-250 trounces it in sales.
The brass I spoke of was Winchester and they are the only ones who sell swift brass that I have seen and its a seasonal run at that.
I was in Gander mountain today and the didnt have a single box of 22o swift ammo.
The Swift IMO is sort of like the 6mm Remington Vs .243. The public chose the 243 and the rest is history.

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calikook -

Just checked Midway.

***20*** Weatherby 300 Wby brass = $38.99

---50--- Winchester 300 W M brass= $28.99

FYI for ANYONE interested.


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Well, I really lucked out. 100rds of new WBY brass in two 50rd MTM flip top boxes..........$5.00.

SHE appearantly didn't appreciate HE ran off with the secretary and stuck her with the bills from a failed business!
Women showed up at general club meeting and unloaded about twenty thou worth of guns, reloading, archery equipment, and cutlery for pennies on the dollar.



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Originally Posted by BWalker
I am sure yours is a keeper, but time has passed the swift buy and the 22-250 trounces it in sales.
The brass I spoke of was Winchester and they are the only ones who sell swift brass that I have seen and its a seasonal run at that.
I was in Gander mountain today and the didnt have a single box of 22o swift ammo.
The Swift IMO is sort of like the 6mm Remington Vs .243. The public chose the 243 and the rest is history.

I hear ya.

But, as you brought it up, I have a .244 Rem (6mm) but no .243. So, maybe I'm a curmudgeon from the past... laugh

6mm Rem, IMHO, is a better round, longer neck with no pressure variation issues. The public and the market may not always be right... shocked

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I have a 6mm Remington too. Its inferior to the .243 only in that it barely fits in a 700 short action.

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Originally Posted by BWalker
I have a 6mm Remington too. Its inferior to the .243 only in that it barely fits in a 700 short action.


Well, if it fits... smile

Does that mean you have problem with longer bullets, etc.? I've never played with a magazine fed 6mm Rem.

Mine is a 40XB single shot. Of course, no problems there... laugh

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