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3 Leupold vx-II's because the selector ring was extremely hard to turn.
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2012 is the first year I haven't returned a scope (mostly Leupy's), but , as they say "the day ain't over yet..."
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I bought two new Leupold's last fall and they both broke right outta the gate. One was a 4x and the other a 4-12x40. The reticle on the 4x broke from being on a Ruger 10/22 and the erector assembly was FU on the 4-12.
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1 leupold. 2 burris. There was a total of seven returns on the 2 burris.
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Four Leupolds and a Jap pre-Monarch Nikon.
The Nikon 3-9 fogged. A VX-II 2-7 and a FX-II 6X36 wouldn't track. On the other two Leupolds, both 6X42s, on one you could turn the windage adjustment from one extreme to the other and the POI didn't move, and the other had a windage that was incredibly hard to turn.
Anybody who seriously concerns themselves with the adequacy of a Big 7mm for anything we hunt here short of brown bear, is a dufus. They are mostly making shidt up. Crunch! Nite-nite!
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A Swaro A and a Leupold M8. Erector problems on both.
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Three Burris.... One 6-18 on a Ruger 10-22 cracked a internal lens with 9 shots.
Two 1 1/2-6 Signatures on Remington 11-87 slug gun, the first one only took one shot to blow the cross hairs out. The second 15 rounds. Had Burris install German #4's no problems sense, its been 8 years.
One Simmons Prohunter 2-7 on a Remington 260 rem., the third shot the cross hairs started to turn after 8 it was turned about 20 degrees. It was free so I shouldn't complain.
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2 tascos, 2 simmons, 1 Remington no-name maker scope, and a bushnell cheap sportsmans model, but all were scrapped rather than returned, as they weren't worth the hassle or shipping cost to replace. I've not had any problems with the better quality scopes that I replaced them with. I'm not very hard on scopes. Binoculars on the other hand...
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Jimmyp, for clarity was the Nighforce defective, or did you just not think it was truly 1x on the low end?
I've had at least 10 in the last year. Most were erector problems, some were failure to hold zero. All were variables. Zeiss, Swarovski, Leupold,and Weaver that I can remember off the top off my head. my complaint when I returned it was that the image was not as nice as I thought it should be for the money, they said its optically really tough to make a true 1-4X.
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jimmyp,
Yeah, probably 20 or so. My wife also had half-a-dozen break on her rifles.
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We'll, let's see. Broken reticle is an old M8, 4X. After all the times it hit the ground hard, once from shoulder height, it let go as my rifle maker was slaming the bolt testing a new magazine box. Scope purchased in 1984. An old 7.5XAO with an all numbers serail number. Broke the reticle while shooting from the bench. Bought used back in the 80's. Sent one 6X42 in because it leaked after being submerged in 140 degree water for over 5 mins. They replaced the seals and recharged it. Sent one new FXII, 4X in because the eye relief wasn't up to spec. The scope came back telling me it was because I had the ocular adjusted out almost to the stop. At mid adjustment, it does meet specs. Oh, well. E
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[quote=Formidilosus]
my complaint when I returned it was that the image was not as nice as I thought it should be for the money, they said its optically really tough to make a true 1-4X. What they told you is correct. There are no TRUE 1x variable scopes. They are all 1.something x..... If one was truly unmagnified (1x) you would see the screws, etc in the tube while looking through it. And I'm sure you know this, but you do not buy a NF for the glass. They have good to very good glass, but not world class. You buy a NF so it won't break.
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I've had several go bad, but haven't always sent them in. From memory, the list includes: *Several older K4s *A Burris 4x *Several mid-priced variables (can't remember all the brands, but most were purchased used on rifles) *Older Luepold 4x (need to send that one in now. wont stay within 20 feet of zero) *Leupold 2-7x VXII (Went bad on a light .375 and after Leupold repaired that scope tracks better than anything I own is back on the .375)
Most of my scopes are Leupolds.
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Gees! It sounds like we should all go back to open sights with all the breakages people have.
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29 posters if my math is right and about 103 scope returns in 10 years and they are not brand specific.
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Gees! It sounds like we should all go back to open sights with all the breakages people have. A friend of mine fell while huniting with an open sighted .30-30 and bent his front sight. It was so bad he could not hit a deer at 100 yards.
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1 = Zeiss Diavari FL 4-16x50
First time outta of the box new = would not track for schit!! Sent it back to Zeiss & they sent me a new one.
I traded that new Zeiss for another Schmidt & Bender.
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I've sent several bushnell scopechief variables in for work. IIRC, all but one I have (previously) owned. I might have had a couple cheap scopes give up, but just trashed them. No leupolds, out of a sampling of perhaps 10 (all variables). Then again, heaviest rifle has been an 8lb 35 whelen. Typical rifles are 7 1/2 lb 270/280/30-06 and I probably average a few hundred rounds a year with them. I have high hopes that the redfield revolutions stand up (got one, no doubt get a few more), as I think they are a real bargain in the scope world currently.
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I own 19 scopes, 16 of them Leupolds. I sent one Leupold back because of a tight adjustment ring that is very likely my fault before I learned not to make rings "farmer tight."
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Sent in an old 2.5 banner to bushnell that the crosshairs had fallen out of. They reset the crosshair but then threw it in a box loose for the return shipment home and it got shook around so much the crosshairs were broken when I got it back. It wasn't an expensive scope and pretty old but the crummy packaging job did not leave a positive impression on me of their CS.
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