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I'll go against the grain on the .358.
I hate the cartridge.
Shot a nice buck, quartering toward me. The buck flipped end for end and lay still. I thought done deal. As I walked up to it I foolishly unloaded the rifle. The buck got up after nary a twitch for 10 minutes and ran into a very thick swamp. I tracked him for the rest of the day. Never found it.
I was so pissed I gave the rifle to a friend whose rifle went TU. He shot a nice buck broadside, twice! Same deal, the buck went down in a heap but got up and ran off never to be found.

We've both shot plenty of deer with the .270 before and since with great results every time.

I'd sooner use a large rock than the .358 again.

Give me velocity every time.


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Originally Posted by nsaqam
I'll go against the grain on the .358.
I hate the cartridge.
Shot a nice buck, quartering toward me. The buck flipped end for end and lay still. I thought done deal. As I walked up to it I foolishly unloaded the rifle. The buck got up after nary a twitch for 10 minutes and ran into a very thick swamp. I tracked him for the rest of the day. Never found it.
I was so pissed I gave the rifle to a friend whose rifle went TU. He shot a nice buck broadside, twice! Same deal, the buck went down in a heap but got up and ran off never to be found.

We've both shot plenty of deer with the .270 before and since with great results every time.

I'd sooner use a large rock than the .358 again.

Give me velocity every time.
Sounds like you made a great shot--definitely the lil' .358's fault.......


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Suck bullets simply suck.

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Originally Posted by dogzapper
I wrote the lead-in to the .358 Winchester load data section for one of the Nosler Handloading Guides ... I've forgotten which one, but it describes a kill I made with my .358 one day.


Yeah, and that lead-in is what sent me on a 15-20 year search for a .358 Winchester, you scoundrel! (An SS Ruger Hawkeye in a McSwirley).

Thanks, amigo!


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Two lost bucks, three solid hits, two days.

Rational or not that kind of experience will sour a guy on a cartridge.

Hate the cartridge.


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Originally Posted by nsaqam
Two lost bucks, three solid hits, two days.

Rational or not that kind of experience will sour a guy on a cartridge.

Hate the cartridge.
That kind of shooting could sour a guy on hunting......


Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Suck bullets simply suck.

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OK, you win.

Never lost a deer with a rifle before or since however.


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Originally Posted by mpwolf
I've got a M70 classic featherweight in 7mm-08 sitting in the safe, and it doesn't get carried much these days. I've got the 7mm slots covered with 7mm-08, 7 rsaum, and 280 AI, so I'm thinking about having a .358 tube spun on as a shorter range thumper. Eastern bears and short range deer would be the targets. I'd be keeping the rifle as close to the same as possible in terms of barrel contour, and the walnut stays. A factory takeoff barrel wouldn't hurt my feelings at all, but I don't recall ever seeing a factory m70 featherweight in .358. Thoughts?


Sounds like an itch you need to scratch. I wouldn't trade mine away.

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I don't think the 358 has been made in the Classic Featherweight. It was, however, made in an earlier version of that rifle. The cartridge itself is a fine little package and thoroughly capable of great deeds. I've not killed any whitetails with mine (a rebarreled Model Seven) but I have killed a few moose and caribou as well as at least one brownie with mine.


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Originally Posted by nsaqam
Two lost bucks, three solid hits, two days.

Rational or not that kind of experience will sour a guy on a cartridge.

Hate the cartridge.


nsagam, interesting.... what bullet did you use?

I've shot several rocky mt and Roosevelt elk with mine and nary a problem.. I've always used either the 225gr Nosler partition or Sierra bt.

I can see where your experience would sour you, for sure!


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Bummer you don't have a 700 action.

Douglas .358 1-14 22" on Ebay.

Douglas .358 barrel on Ebay

Originally Posted by gunswizard
The .358 is an excellent cartridge, in addition to .35 caliber rifle bullets you can shoot a broad range of other bullets. These include .35 cast bullets, .357 pistol bullets both cast and jacketed. That is a big part of the .358's appeal for me.

The .358 is the ultimate plinker!!!

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It's all been said already except this: I find it a) puts them down nicely and b) doesn't bloodshot much meat. That's a nice combo at 20-30 yards.

I will respectfully disagree with my friend Dogzapper. He mentioned that going bigger than 200-gn will negatively effect your trajectory. It may, a bit, but far enough out there where that matters, the 225 really kills the 200 in wind bucking. The 200's have the BC of an ashtray. With a 225 NP I can hit a 10" plate at 400 yds and the bullet is still going ~1800 fps. With a 200, neither is true.

Gack gack gack <g>. It's a fun cartridge.


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I have a 100 new rounds of brass that I never used. I have a box of 250 grain factory Silvertips and another box of 200 grain Silvertips.
Send a PM if interested. I don't think I will get around to building the custom in the 358.

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I don't have a 358 Win,but I do have a 35-284 I built which is basically a 35 Whelen. I have experimented with every bullet I can find and the 225 gr. Sierra has been the most accurate and has folded up a couple of Arizona Elk when I lived there and I don't even know how many deer. I built the rifle on an older Savage110 action with a # under 50,000. That makes it fairly early on. I bought it way back when the model # was the price $110.00 dollars. I got it in 243 and used it many years.
I got around to rebarelling it to the 35-284 and a Douglas barel.
I couldn't be happier because I can get 3/4" or less (any bigger is my fault) and 1-3/8" at 200 yards with the 225 gr, Sierra. I have clocked the velocity at the Tucson Rod and Gun Club with my old buddy G. Sitton when he lived ther and was alive.
Long story shortened.. 225 gr Sierra at 2700 fps recorded by Gary.
35's are great and with one exception, nothing I ever shot needed more than 1 round...

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Sounds like a worthwhile project. Won't happen overnight, but I'll be keeping my eyes out for a suitable barrel.

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