Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Long Range Hunting .300 Short Action Ultra Mag vs .300 Ultra Mag vs .300 Win. Mag.

I am young, but I have plenty of shooting experience, and my dad has agreed that it is time for my first rifle. I am looking for a caliber that can take just about anything in North America and Canada with the exception of bear. I am a big fan of the .300 saum, but it's lack of availability is a huge negative factor, but I do reload quite a bit, so I can keep that in check. But... The .300 Ultra Mag. has a bit more FPS and knockdown, but availability isn't good. My least favorite, the. 300 Win. Mag. is the most available by far, and it does offer decent knockdown, but I believe it's over rated and lacks individuality, unlike the other two rounds. I need some experienced minds to help me out. Feel free to correct any of my errors and put in your input, it would be much appreciated.

I used to have a 300 SAUM and sold it because I dont reload I bought a 300 RUM and use the Federal 180 grain trophy tips with great results but alot of people said because I dont reload I should have got a 300 Win mag but I dont have any regrets also with the 300 RUM you can download it down to 30-06 or load it full for the 300 RUM

If you want one rifle for NA biggame, what about a 300 WSM loaded with 180gr Nosler Ballistic Tips?

You can shoot everything with it except Prarie dogs and coyotes, which will leave you with a good excuse to ask your dad to let you get an AR.

That actually seem like a good idea, that's one of the rounds I have started looking into, but i'm not an AR guy believe it or not, bolt actions are my favorite by far, but maybe I can look into the WSM more, because I don't want to regret not getting a certain caliber, and the rifles i'm looking into are very high quality hunting rifles, so it's not easy to have multiple for different calibers.

What is knockdown?

Isn't a 108 grain bullet small for any 30 cal. I love the 300SAUM. I have about 400 rounds of brass and reload. I do not shoot over 300 yds., but not because of the caliber.

Hard to beat this gun.....

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What brand of rifle do you want and what bullet do you want to shoot? I'm assuming since you're posting in the long range section you want something with a high BC. If runnIng a high bc 30 cal I'd look at the 208 amax or a Berger vld or hybrid. If that's how you're leaning I'd go a 700 long action 300 win mag. I'd leaves you room to play with seating depths and mine ran the 208 amax at 2950 fps. I've had them all and although I don't care for belts the 300 win in a 700 LA just flat shoots, feeds, and is flexible. Or just get a 7 rem for the same reasons.

Bb

Just about tried all the 30Cal's, hard to beat the dirty old 300WM ,accuracy that is second to none. Can be shot with or without brake....my Fav with 210VLD's

I'm looking at a Christensen, they price high, but I have heard absolutely nothing but positive feedback from them. Brand of ammo is still something I have to look into once I pick my caliber. And as for the 700, i'm not a fan of them. But the saum is more accueate if i'm not correct.

I have a friend that hunts a lot. By a lot I mean he and his father have hunted every continent and killed almost every game animal on the planet except elephants. They have spent more on taxidermy than 99.9% of the population will ever have. They both hunt with 300 Win Mags. If they need anything bigger they use a 375 H&H.

Most Christensen's are built on 700 actions or a clone there of. Many of their carbon wrapped barrels are turned down Remington factory barrels and some of their stocks are off of rem 700's too. You can pay a lot of money and end up with what is basically a carbon wrapped 700.

Answer a few more questions like what game at what range, rifle weight, recoil tolerance, and budget.

Bb

Not correct.I have 2 700 SAUMS,and 8 or 9 other 700s.They are all accurate,I wouldn't still have them if they weren't.The SAUM differs from other Remington 700s only in the chambering,and the SAUM is not any more accurate per se than any other 700 chambering. Monashee

Well I don't know how you can get a carbon wrapped 700 to come out 5.5 ibs, but in all honesty, I am really considering a GA Precision-non-typical chambered in one of the calibers, but still, A christensen is higher quality than a 700.Also the bolt is fluted and has a circular knob, which in and of itself is important to me, I hate the 700 action and the clinky handle. I am looking at 500 yards most likely, because that is within my ability, my budget is $3000 for the entire setup, I want the rifle to be lower than 9 ibs, and I have never come across a gun too much for me so far, from a box of 30-06 ammo in one visit to 75 .480s back to back, god just gave me a good shoulder.

A Christensen IS a 700... dressed up in carbon and jacked up 3 grand.

Why are you concerned with factory ammunition if you hand-load? Honestly, if you're killing inside 500 yards I would look no further than a .308 and 165 Accubonds or 155 Scenars.

I'd do a lot more research before laying down 3 grand on any rifle.

It's a myth .30 Mag guys made up..... happens to be the only trump card they have on the 7mm Rem. Mag.....

I very much have that intention

If you'd like to know what I'd do (being another young guy, that has bought and sold way too many rifles already, and shot a LOT), here's it...

IF you are set on a .30...

Rem 700 Stainless SPS .308 Win
McMillan Edge Mountain Rifle
Leupold 3.5-10x40
Spend the rest of your money on buying a ton of bullets and powder, and become a surgeon out to 500 yards with it.

I'd hang pics of what a bone-stock 700 7 Remmie does at 500 yards, but that'd be rude.

Hands down get a 300WM over the other two!

I have used both the 300 Win mag and the 300 RUM extensively thruout NA. I've taken quite a mixed bag of game with both. If I could only have one I would have to choose the 300 Win. It is incredibly versitle, accuracy is excellent, factory ammo is available everywhere, and with a wide variey of bullets available today if you reload all the better. 163bc