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Have a great and safe hunt!

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Thanks. Wife, dog, and me.
Been packing and going over gear all day. Soon as the wife gets home, Im going to load up the hummer. Hope it all fits!

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Good Luck on that hunt, take LOTS of pics and don't forget the blue tape. Remember that adds a couple hundred feet per second as well wink


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Originally Posted by splattermatic
Im hoping so!
Maybe, just maybe, one is tough enough to hold a 140 ttsx.
If all goes well. Will i be the first to kill an oryx with a 280ai?


Nope. Maybe the first with a 140 TSX out of a 280Ai though. We proved that an orxy can't hold a 280AI 162 A-max even when launched from nearly 700 yards a couple months ago.

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Damn. Was hoping so.
Oh well. .....
Got just about everything inside with leaving room for trap to lay down.
Extra spare tire and rubbermaid container with 2, 5 gallon gas can are up on the safari rack.
Sorry for the hi jack, but get a 280ai. I have confidence mine will do in an oryx.

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You going on range or private land? Since the off base tags are basically over the counter and so many ranchers are amenable to being paid trespass fees, I am going to go every year from here on out. I love oryx, best wild game I have ever eaten.

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I drew a once in a lifetime on range tag for rhodes canyon.
Guess we'll see about next year?
What do they charge for the trespass fee?

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Originally Posted by nsaqam
I didn't dumb down the 7RM to lower pressure, SAAMI did.

I didn't maximize the efficiency of the .280AI, SAAMI did.

SAAMI matters to the people who print loading manuals. It matters so much to them that they simply will not list loads which exceed the SAAMI MAP.


Keep dreaming....everyone but you knows the 7 Rem Mag is faster across the board.Nosler knows it;uses a 26" tube for a 280AI and a 24 for the 7 Mag.

If the 280AI is as fast,and SAAMI pressures are so low,why does Nosler still show slower speeds with everything in the 280AI than the 7 Rem Mag, up to and including the 175 gr bullet? That's from a barrel 2" longer for the 280AI?

I've had enough 7 Rem Mags to know it does exactly what the Nosler manual says it does....do you think Nosler is loading to pressures over SAMMI maximums?Like....Nosler all of a sudden doesn't know what it's doing?Laffing at that one....

More Kool Aid by the 280AI boys. grin

Like Dober says, you guys stomp on it to make it do what it does.I haven't believed the hype surrounding that cartridge since it became what passes for "popular"(this is the only place the thing gets even a mention).

I find a lotta dreamers love it.

It's still choking on the 270's dust LOL!

Every time I consider getting one, I laugh to myself and remember these threads...think I'll pass and save the money..it's barely any better than a handloaded 280 Remington.

Splattermattic if the 270 is the "odd duck" caliber, how come it was the first true 7mm, and was popular here in the states way before any .284 cartridge became popular? And still buries all the competition, by far....if you addede th total sales of riles and ammo up for all the 7mm's here in North America, they still wouldn't come close to the 270...as for the 270 being chump change when it come to killing game...you guys are dreamers....learn to shoot.LOL! laugh

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The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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A 270 is just fine. It is not a cartridge I've ever owned nor want to.
Something about it just doesn't appeal to me.
I like many other cartridges, and have been around lots of 270's and seen them kill just fine.
Just not my calling.

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I just got back from an elk hunt in Montana with my Montana .280 AI. Didn't get it bloody, but man....I'll never take another rifle to the mountains. What a joy to carry that thing, and I don't mean slung over my shoulder -- it never left my hand.

I've been an unapologetic .280 fan ever since I killed my first dear over 30 years ago with my grandfather's .280 Rem. It's a cartridge that's got style -- which is to say that not everyone has one, and I like that. The .280 AI, from my point of view, is a marked improvement over an already superb round.

I don't try to make mine into a 7RM, but I do get the 150 TTSX moving at 3,060 with no problem whatsoever. That's exactly 200 fps faster than Federal can do with the 150 Partition in my .280 Rem. If I can ever get the 150 Partition to move out at 3,000 fps in my AI, and keep the accuracy that I now get with the Barnes, I'll be done playing.


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I'm in the same boat as far as the .270 goes, my step-dad has killed a few dozen elk with his. I've seen him probably take 30-40 different deer/antelope with it as well.

Just doesn't do anything for me and truth be told I could care less if the .280ai isn't a 7mm Rem Mag. I've got one of those, if I want one.

For 99% of my hunting my 7mm-08 will do just fine, I've just always wanted a .280 for some reason and now I'll have a .280ai


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More Kool Aid by the 280AI boys. grin

Like Dober says, you guys stomp on it to make it do what it does.

Uhhhm.....so loading a 280 AI to saami map is stomping on it??????? But loading a 7 mag over saami map isn't? ?????

Hmmm!!!!!

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Excellent point Shod.


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Not to mention that the moment folks go past published 7RM loads they venture into unknown pressures.


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Baloney to you and Shod...are the Nosler manual loads "over max"?LOL!

It's still faster,even with a shorter barrel and lower SAMMI max.....You guys are a riot... smirk

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The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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No one's answering....what about the Nosler Manual data for both cartridges? How do you explain that away in light of SAAMMI max?

Doesn't count?

Too funny.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I have a .280 (built by Redneck) on a stainless M700 action in a McMilian Mt. Rifle stock. The recoil is like an '06 or a .270. Moderate I'd say, no biggie even if you're a bit recoil shy. It's easy to buy ammo for, and is very accurate.

The 7mm Mag doesn't turn my crank all that much, though i'm not sure why.


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Hodgdon doesn't list a single 160 class load which reaches 3000.


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Originally Posted by Dogshooter
.280 AI.... is a fancy way of saying: "Not quite a 7 Remmie...."


or...my wiener's bigger but I don't need to tell everyone about it.


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I've not run a .280 Ackley much (would do so in a heartbeat), but I can't see observing too much of a difference betwixt a great 7mm 160gr bullet traveling 2950 (from the .280 Ack, which I believe to be a very plausible figure with a 24" tube), and the same bullet moving 3050+ (from a 7RM, which I shoot with an uncompressed charge of Retumbo). Both are going to absolutely smack critters and be dirty bastiges in the wind (I'm thinking 162 A-Max here).

Both are sweet azzed carts, but I'm particularly loving my 7Rem Mag. Out of the sub 9lb rifle I'm shooting it in right now, recoil prone out of the dirt is absolutely a non-issue. But I ain't a big old wuss, either... grin

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