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Problem is, bigger guns typically get left home. I've carried every style, every which way and end up not bringing it along all the time. At least a pocket gun is always with me.

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First off a pocket gun must fit into a real life pocket.
Or it will be left at home.
Then it must be reliable and useful.


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Originally Posted by gunchamp
Problem is, bigger guns typically get left home. I've carried every style, every which way and end up not bringing it along all the time. At least a pocket gun is always with me.


Check out the XDs.....I am telling you that is a badass concealed gun.....kicks like a 9mm

Try it out


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Originally Posted by Boococky
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Problem is, bigger guns typically get left home. I've carried every style, every which way and end up not bringing it along all the time. At least a pocket gun is always with me.


Check out the XDs.....I am telling you that is a badass concealed gun.....kicks like a 9mm

Try it out
It's an amazingly compact .45 ACP, and reports are mostly positive as to its shootability and reliability. If you need the smallest .45 ACP available, that's a great pick. Personally, I'd rather have twelve rounds of 9mm than five rounds of .45 ACP in a similar sized package. Yeah, the S&W M&P 9c is a fraction of an inch thicker than the XDs, but since it conceals well, and carries comfortably, in a Milt Sparks VM II, I see no need for a reduction by a fraction of an inch in thickness, and no way I'd carry either of them as a pocket gun. For me, an "always carry" pocket gun means a "mouse gun," i.e., something like a North American Arms Mini-Revolver or a Seecamp-sized auto pistol.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
...in most cases, a .22 would work well enough...


Uh, no it won't.


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...in most cases, a .22 would work well enough...


Uh, no it won't.
Notice the word "most." A truly determined attacker, himself armed with an effective weapon, will not (short of a brain shot) be prevented from seriously harming or killing you if all you have is a .22 Long Rifle pocket gun. That said, most criminal threats do not rise to the level of a truly determined attacker such as to disregard being shot with a .22 Long Rifle pocket gun. That statement, however, is not a recommendation on my part of a .22 Long Rifle pocket gun as a self-defense piece.

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Self defense means just that self defense which means up close and personal. I'm not in the military and I am no longer a police officer therefore, a big honking offensive handgun is no longer needed to be carried on a daily basis.

I'm thinking a Sig P232 or a Seecamp myself.


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What are its intended use(s)?


Pocket gun usually means for concealed carry, self defense.


If it's a self-defense weapon, that would preclude a pocket gun. A gun that might be used to save your life ought to be up to the task. Bigger is always better.

I'd suspect that a .38 Special would be minimum.


Pocket guns can't be used for self defense.

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Maybe a trip to Chicago will accord you practical knowledge you need. You can watch those Stingers penetrate heavy winter coats.

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Never been to Chicago. Sounds scary.

Thankfully there are no thick winter coats in Montana. Color me safe and sound.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Boococky
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Problem is, bigger guns typically get left home. I've carried every style, every which way and end up not bringing it along all the time. At least a pocket gun is always with me.


Check out the XDs.....I am telling you that is a badass concealed gun.....kicks like a 9mm

Try it out
It's an amazingly compact .45 ACP, and reports are mostly positive as to its shootability and reliability. If you need the smallest .45 ACP available, that's a great pick. Personally, I'd rather have twelve rounds of 9mm than five rounds of .45 ACP in a similar sized package. Yeah, the S&W M&P 9c is a fraction of an inch thicker than the XDs, but since it conceals well, and carries comfortably, in a Milt Sparks VM II, I see no need for a reduction by a fraction of an inch in thickness, and no way I'd carry either of them as a pocket gun. For me, an "always carry" pocket gun means a "mouse gun," i.e., something like a North American Arms Mini-Revolver or a Seecamp-sized auto pistol.


I completely understand and respect your thoughts and more ammo is always a good thing, but there is no way around the fact that caliber+capacity=size and the bigger the caliber and/or larger capacity means the gun is larger.....I personally like nothing less than .40...I do have an LCP for the utmost conceal-ability and my main carry gun used to be the LC9, but I like the advantage (at least IMHO) of the .45ACP. It holds 5+1 which is no more than any carry revolver short of .22 and I have a 7 and another 5 round mag as backup



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Originally Posted by deflave
Never been to Chicago. Sounds scary.

Thankfully there are no thick winter coats in Montana. Color me safe and sound.


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Carrying a handgun is a last resort attempt to escape danger. You merely have to determine what handgun is most likely to accord you best opportunity to live.

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Originally Posted by Laguna
Carrying a handgun is a last resort attempt to escape danger. You merely have to determine what handgun is most likely to accord you best opportunity to live.
First resort is Nike-Kwan-Do!!

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Originally Posted by P_Weed

I have a S&W 432 PD, Airweight, 6-shot snubbie, shrouded barrel, internal hammer (DAO),
32 MAG. A good shooter and perfect for carry.

I have a 431, same thing but exposed hammer. Good little carry gun.

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I have a S&W 637, LCP, p7m8, Sig 232. North American mini and Sig 938. Normal attire in S/E Texas is cargo shorts and boat shoes. My fav. Right now is the 938. It's a little heavy and the trigger leaves a little to be desired but it shoots surprisingly good. Not as good as the p7m8 . Hasbeen


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Originally Posted by Boococky
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Problem is, bigger guns typically get left home. I've carried every style, every which way and end up not bringing it along all the time. At least a pocket gun is always with me.


Check out the XDs.....I am telling you that is a badass concealed gun.....kicks like a 9mm

Try it out
It's a 27 ounce pistol BEFORE you fill it up with .45's. That would tug my britches off.

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Originally Posted by KevinGibson
Originally Posted by Boococky
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Problem is, bigger guns typically get left home. I've carried every style, every which way and end up not bringing it along all the time. At least a pocket gun is always with me.


Check out the XDs.....I am telling you that is a badass concealed gun.....kicks like a 9mm

Try it out
It's a 27 ounce pistol BEFORE you fill it up with .45's. That would tug my britches off.


I thought you carried a smith 1911? thats gotta weigh as much or more

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Originally Posted by KevinGibson
Originally Posted by Boococky
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Problem is, bigger guns typically get left home. I've carried every style, every which way and end up not bringing it along all the time. At least a pocket gun is always with me.


Check out the XDs.....I am telling you that is a badass concealed gun.....kicks like a 9mm

Try it out
It's a 27 ounce pistol BEFORE you fill it up with .45's. That would tug my britches off.


Manufacturer states 21.5 oz


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Originally Posted by Boococky
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Originally Posted by Boococky
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Problem is, bigger guns typically get left home. I've carried every style, every which way and end up not bringing it along all the time. At least a pocket gun is always with me.


Check out the XDs.....I am telling you that is a badass concealed gun.....kicks like a 9mm

Try it out
It's a 27 ounce pistol BEFORE you fill it up with .45's. That would tug my britches off.


Manufacturer states 21.5 oz


I used to carry a LC9 at 17.1 oz, at 8 rounds of 9mm vs 6 of .45 I know I am gaining an oz or two on the ammo so maybe, just maybe I am up to 6oz. heavier than I used to carry....noticeable, but definitely easily carried


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Originally Posted by deflave
Never been to Chicago. Sounds scary.

Thankfully there are no thick winter coats in Montana. Color me safe and sound.


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