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#7170710 - 12/11/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: gunchamp]  
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Nice.


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#7170722 - 12/11/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: deflave]  
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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Laguna
Originally Posted by dubya
Originally Posted by Laguna
What are its intended use(s)?


Pocket gun usually means for concealed carry, self defense.


If it's a self-defense weapon, that would preclude a pocket gun. A gun that might be used to save your life ought to be up to the task. Bigger is always better.

I'd suspect that a .38 Special would be minimum.


Pocket guns can't be used for self defense.

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Well duh.. everyone knows that! Lol

#7170864 - 12/11/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: dubya]  
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dubya,

Just an FYI, they are especially worthless in Chicago due to the common use of jackets in that region.


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#7170925 - 12/11/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: Boococky]  
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Originally Posted by Boococky
I thought you carried a smith 1911? thats gotta weigh as much or more
The thread is about POCKET GUNS.

#7171097 - 12/11/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: GunGeek]  
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Good choice,gunchamp. You will be very happy with your great looking Smith. .38 +P is great. I belive you can get the "short barrel" load in .38, cuts down on muzzle flash in tiny guns. made by Speer I belive. Got some coming from Natchez in .45 for my XDs.

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#7171357 - 12/11/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: Buzzsaw]  
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I got a few boxes of the short barrel gold dot. I just ordered a couple boxes of the BB heavy 158 lswchp. They should bite a bit.


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#7172193 - 12/11/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: gunchamp]  
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Good choice.


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#7173002 - 12/11/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: deflave]  
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Originally Posted by deflave
dubya,

Just an FYI, they are especially worthless in Chicago due to the common use of jackets in that region.


Travis


Guess im SOL here in MN too....
Maybe a 6" S&W 629 is what i need to start packing! crazy

#7173010 - 12/11/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: dubya]  
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Besides my S&W 360 PD (scandium alloy j-frame 357) which is a good front pocket gun, i like to carry a Glock 36 in my cargo pocket while im wearing shorts. It's borderline almost too heavy but it's do-able. My buddy recently bought an XDs and although its a little smaller and lighter i would way rather have my G36 and after shooting them both side by side, he is planning on selling it already and getting a G36. Small is good for carry but the XDs is too small to be comfortable for me.

#7173676 - 12/12/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: GunGeek]  
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Originally Posted by KevinGibson
Originally Posted by Boococky
I thought you carried a smith 1911? thats gotta weigh as much or more
The thread is about POCKET GUNS.


I know that, but I sir do consider the XDs a pocket gun

Im no little fella though grin


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Bravo

#7173713 - 12/12/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: Boococky]  
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Originally Posted by Boococky
Originally Posted by KevinGibson
Originally Posted by Boococky
I thought you carried a smith 1911? thats gotta weigh as much or more
The thread is about POCKET GUNS.


I know that, but I sir do consider the XDs a pocket gun

Im no little fella though grin
Yeah, but I doubt Kevin considers his 1911s to be pocket guns. I think that's what he's referring to.


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#7173729 - 12/12/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]  
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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Boococky
Originally Posted by KevinGibson
Originally Posted by Boococky
I thought you carried a smith 1911? thats gotta weigh as much or more
The thread is about POCKET GUNS.


I know that, but I sir do consider the XDs a pocket gun

Im no little fella though grin
Yeah, but I doubt Kevin considers his 1911s to be pocket guns. I think that's what he's referring to.


I know that lol....he said the XDs would pull his pants down and thats why I mentioned his 1911....but I guess a good holster setup isint the same "feel" as pocket carry


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#7174276 - 12/12/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: Boococky]  
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Buy pants with bigger pockets & that way bigger guns become an option.

#7174536 - 12/12/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: Laguna]  
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Originally Posted by Laguna
Buy pants with bigger pockets & that way bigger guns become an option.


And stay out of Chicago.


Travis

#7174558 - 12/12/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: Laguna]  
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I was going to say that some of you guys have really big pockets.

That's a good picture in the other thread on pocket pistols comparing the size of XDs and the CW9. Technically my CW9 will fit into my jeans front pocket completely and when I'm standing it doesn't show hardly at all. But as soon as I sit down and stretch the pants leg a bit the outline is very obviously a gun. Same with the CM9 which has a smaller butt. Standing up you canít see it in a pocket at all but even it will print when you sit down. FWIW Iím 5í 9Ē and wear a 35 or 34 inch waist.

I can see how a person could hide a bigger gun in a front pocket but youíd need not only bigger pockets but much, much looser pants all around to not print anything bigger than an LCP or Kel-Tec P3AT type of gun when youíre sitting.

A pocket holster is a good idea for several reasons but it really does hide the outline of the slide and butt. But even one of those still leaves you with a big square bulge in your pocket when you sit down.

Thatís why I started a thread asking for folks to post pics of how they carry but it didn't go anywhere. Everyone says how they carry their pre-64 Model 70 Alaskan in a bathing suit and nobody sees it but I sure canít. Seriously though, I really would like to know how folks manage to carry these larger handguns totally hidden from view under all circumstances - where do you carry and what wardrobe choices do you need to do this?

I've been trying various ways to hide a CW9 completely, all the time, sitting or bending over, and the only thing I can come up with is IWB with a shirt untucked or wearing a jacket or outer garment of some kind. That's fine and dandy but you have to then wear your jacket sitting at a restuarant table, in a theater, wherever - you can't take it off without exposing your butt (pun intended).


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#7175739 - 12/12/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: gunchamp]  
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Originally Posted by gunchamp
Well guys, I brought one home from the local shop today. S&W 642. Should work fine.
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Non lock gun too. Fits well in the pocket. Will be shooting her very soon. Thanks


Put some smooth wood grips on her and she will slide in and out just like a hot knife through butter. grin


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#7176349 - 12/12/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: OrangeOkie]  
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Probably what I'm going to do.


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#7176862 - 12/12/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: deflave]  
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Originally Posted by deflave
LCR all the way.


Travis


Travis, or any of you guys who have had a chance to handle/shoot both the LCR and the 442, why a preference for the LCR? The most mentioned item i've seen is the good trigger on the LCR. And why not stay with the 38 +P? (If I want more horsepower than that I'll just stick my Commander under my shirt.). I'm specifically looking for a pocket weapon and trying to learn what I can from you all.

Dave

#7177220 - 12/13/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: OldRooster]  
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Originally Posted by OldRooster
Originally Posted by deflave
LCR all the way.


Travis


Travis, or any of you guys who have had a chance to handle/shoot both the LCR and the 442, why a preference for the LCR? The most mentioned item i've seen is the good trigger on the LCR. And why not stay with the 38 +P? (If I want more horsepower than that I'll just stick my Commander under my shirt.). I'm specifically looking for a pocket weapon and trying to learn what I can from you all.

Dave
The LCR is lighter, and has a lighter double action trigger pull, not to mention you can grip it higher in relation to the bore axis. The 442 is the more tried and true weapon, though.


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#7177238 - 12/13/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]  
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#7177333 - 12/13/12 Re: whats your vote for a pocket gun? [Re: Jim in Idaho]  
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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
I was going to say that some of you guys have really big pockets.

That's a good picture in the other thread on pocket pistols comparing the size of XDs and the CW9. Technically my CW9 will fit into my jeans front pocket completely and when I'm standing it doesn't show hardly at all. But as soon as I sit down and stretch the pants leg a bit the outline is very obviously a gun. Same with the CM9 which has a smaller butt. Standing up you canít see it in a pocket at all but even it will print when you sit down. FWIW Iím 5í 9Ē and wear a 35 or 34 inch waist.

I can see how a person could hide a bigger gun in a front pocket but youíd need not only bigger pockets but much, much looser pants all around to not print anything bigger than an LCP or Kel-Tec P3AT type of gun when youíre sitting.

A pocket holster is a good idea for several reasons but it really does hide the outline of the slide and butt. But even one of those still leaves you with a big square bulge in your pocket when you sit down.

Thatís why I started a thread asking for folks to post pics of how they carry but it didn't go anywhere. Everyone says how they carry their pre-64 Model 70 Alaskan in a bathing suit and nobody sees it but I sure canít. Seriously though, I really would like to know how folks manage to carry these larger handguns totally hidden from view under all circumstances - where do you carry and what wardrobe choices do you need to do this?

I've been trying various ways to hide a CW9 completely, all the time, sitting or bending over, and the only thing I can come up with is IWB with a shirt untucked or wearing a jacket or outer garment of some kind. That's fine and dandy but you have to then wear your jacket sitting at a restuarant table, in a theater, wherever - you can't take it off without exposing your butt (pun intended).


Jim, I dont know that there is any true effective way to conceal 24/7 in ALL positions

I will try to describe to you what I do and it may or may not help....I am 6'6" tall and wear a 38 pants....I have a Ruger LCP and now a Springfield XDs which replaced my LC9. My LCP is pretty easy to hide (obviously). It has a belt clip which makes pocket carry very easy. It is small enough that it does not print and anyone that "notices" it thinks its a small pocket knife and ive even had a buddy ask to borrow my "knife". I carry the LCP when I have loose shorts on or any other more comfortable or light clothing....it is also my go to gun when I carry in places that I want the utmost concealment...last time I went to the movies it was clipped inside my boot

Now, with the Springfield I currently have 2 options.....I pocket carry or use the included paddle holster. I do pocket carry the XDs and it can and does "print" depending on how I am standing and sitting. I tried one pocket holster but it made a very large buldge

The stock paddle holster is not a good option for me....its little, uncomfortable, and makes a rather large bulge on my side....I am having a customer leather holster made right know for it that will keep it OWB but canted and tight to my body....that will be they way I carry it 95% of the time...I do not ever tuck my shirts in and I have never loved IWB carry so I think this will fit me best.

With all of that being said, I am sure that people at times will notice I am carrying, I try my best to conceal, but as long as I am within the law, I do not worry too much if 1 out of every 20 people or whatever, notice that I am carrying

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