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Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Socialists call it price gouging, Capitalists call it supply and demand.


call it what you will, that's just semantics, but instead of going to the local mom&pop first like i always did, i just go online and make no effort to 'buy local' at that place. another example of capitalism at work...


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It's only worth what someone will pay for it. Is this week different than last week? You bet. Is it worth paying for it if you think or know you need it? That is what drives prices. No apoligies needed anymore than laughing at the others are needed.



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Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Socialists call it price gouging, Capitalists call it supply and demand.


call it what you will, that's just semantics, but instead of going to the local mom&pop first like i always did, i just go online and make no effort to 'buy local' at that place. another example of capitalism at work...


LMAO at your righteous indignation. I hope you need something at the last minute from that Mom & Pop, and you find it closed. Merchants need to make profits and keep making them. If they recognize that there won't be any stock to sell for a prolonged period, they must get what the market bears and salt it away to keep the doors open.


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Originally Posted by toad
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Socialists call it price gouging, Capitalists call it supply and demand.


call it what you will, that's just semantics, but instead of going to the local mom&pop first like i always did, i just go online and make no effort to 'buy local' at that place. another example of capitalism at work...


Yep, it is another example. A good one. If more people felt like you the shop would go out of business and the next guy would hopefully learn from his mistakes and successes. But evidently they don't.


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Socialists call it price gouging, Capitalists call it supply and demand.


call it what you will, that's just semantics, but instead of going to the local mom&pop first like i always did, i just go online and make no effort to 'buy local' at that place. another example of capitalism at work...


LMAO at your righteous indignation. I hope you need something at the last minute from that Mom & Pop, and you find it closed. Merchants need to make profits and keep making them. If they recognize that there won't be any stock to sell for a prolonged period, they must get what the market bears and salt it away to keep the doors open.


i'm fine if it's closed...havent stepped foot in the place in 4+ years. bought a half dozen guns there over the years before that though.


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Simply a matter of moral relativity.

If I am the seller and can make a multiple hundred percent profit on an unexpected event, it is good business and simply capitalism at its finest.

If I am a buyer caught unawares and now seeking to purchase items, it is an unfair, disgusting abomination in the eyes of God and man which will surely condemn the gouger to eternity in Hell.








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Would ANYONE buy IBM for a dollar, then have it go to $10 and sell, but tell the new buyer to only pay you $2?


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I got some stuff to sell, and I fully expect to make a profit. But i still have to sleep at night.

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Every hotel/motel raises their rates during the rush season...standard M/O...

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Originally Posted by aalf
Every hotel/motel raises their rates during the rush season...standard M/O...


Yep its a simple choice you don't have to buy unless the government is involved.


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Toad, not trying to argue, but just for conversation...

At a 15% markup of six $800 guns, they made $720 off of you.

If current stories are to be believed, they could make more off of 20 PMags than several years of your shopping.

Not that it will, or should, make a difference to you. Just for conversation.


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Every hotel/motel raises their rates during the rush season...standard M/O...
Yep, they have to make up for those periods when the competition for customers is steep and they must charge near cost to get any at all. During those times, customers are "gouging" the hotel owners, right?

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"What's wrong with price gouging?"

I do not believe it exists, so, nothing.


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From a purely economic standpoint it is simply finding that point where the supply and demand curves meet.

But as with most things, there are unintended consequences. During the last shortage when you couldn't find powder or much less primers for love nor money, a certain store in town had piles of each at $30/pound for powder (which had sold just prior for $18-$19/lb) and primers for $60/brick.

I remember that and will never, ever buy anything from that store. My personal boycott won't cost them their business but I believe my feelings are shared with at least some other folks.

Gouging Drastic price hikes in response to unexpected demand are good for the short term profit, which is what concerns most business people in America. Long term good will does not seem to be regarded as a valuable business asset, possibly because the losses suffered by its lack are impossible to quantify.


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In this internet/box store age there is very little loyalty to local merchants. Why should they reciprocate?


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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Perhaps the disloyalty to local stores is a consequence of their actions.

Neither of our arguments are easily provable, if at all. I merely offer the counter.





Nothing empirical here, but I have dealt with people who offer outstanding customer service and a willingness to make sure I am satisfied (wish I could say it was a local lady, but alas...). Anyway, even though I might buy the same goods elsewhere at a slightly cheaper price I continued to take my business to these people due to the good will they tried so hard to generate. Again, just one opinion, but pehaps others share it.


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My daughter beat me out of my little S&W airweight Thursday,so I needed a new pocket pistol.Yesterday I went into Academy- fully expecting to come back out empty handed based on what I've been reading on the forum- but prices seemed about as usual.

In fact, they had a little Taurus single stack in 40 cal. at a clearance price.

It shoots pretty good, too.


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It was simply a result of buying as cheap as the consumer could, and it put Mom & Pops out of business all over the country.

Box stores wipe out the local guy. It's common knowledge. When WallyWorld moved in here, six long time local merchants folded. These were ones who supported little league, the high school, bobbysox softball, and more.

Walmart gave us nothing but second-rate groceries and Chinese everything else. Try to order anything specialty from Wally. It won't happen.



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Some call it price gouging, others call it a "procrastination premium."

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