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Originally Posted by gunner500
My very worst kicker is an 8-Bore rifle, it fires an 850 gr round ball over 300 grains of FFG Swiss powder at 1400 fps.

The rifle weighs 10.0 lbs even, and IIRC churns out about 190 ft. lbs. recoil energy.

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I shot this 4 Bore in Australia, it weighted 19 pounds. It was a late 1800's era Bland. It shot a 1500 grain lead ball. It was a pleasure to shoot at 19#'s

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There have been a couple that were memorable, a 7.25# all up Jarrett 358 STA that broke scopes and pegged out my fun meter pretty quick, a custom 458 Lott that was a bad idea at 9.5 # (my previous 458 Lott was an A-Square that I thought was too heavy) and I took a pretty good ass whipping sighting in a friend's unbraked 416 Weatherby.

I've not shot many doubles, nothing was over 470 NE but I didn't find them unreasonable, nice weight and balance (fired offhand or a standing rest).

A new Sharps shooting 50-140 smokeless loads was pretty grim.





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Originally Posted by Chipolopolo
Originally Posted by gunner500
My very worst kicker is an 8-Bore rifle, it fires an 850 gr round ball over 300 grains of FFG Swiss powder at 1400 fps.

The rifle weighs 10.0 lbs even, and IIRC churns out about 190 ft. lbs. recoil energy.

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I shot this 4 Bore in Australia, it weighted 19 pounds. It was a late 1800's era Bland. It shot a 1500 grain lead ball. It was a pleasure to shoot at 19#'s


Thats cool as hell, was it a double rifle?

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Agreed about the .470. A 10.5-11# .470 is pleasant to shoot. Nice cartridge.

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My friend has a 505Gibbs. The rifle is heavy enough but everytime I fire it, it feels like I've been punched in the face. I have a 500NE which is pleasant in comparison. grin


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Originally Posted by gunner500
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My very worst kicker is an 8-Bore rifle, it fires an 850 gr round ball over 300 grains of FFG Swiss powder at 1400 fps.

The rifle weighs 10.0 lbs even, and IIRC churns out about 190 ft. lbs. recoil energy.

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I shot this 4 Bore in Australia, it weighted 19 pounds. It was a late 1800's era Bland. It shot a 1500 grain lead ball. It was a pleasure to shoot at 19#'s


Thats cool as hell, was it a double rifle?

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Nope, It was a top break single. The thing looked like it was just a couple years old. It was actually over 120 years old. The guy shot about 5 buffalo, a donkey and some other stuff with it. He loaded his ammo every night. You can only fly on Qantas with 5 kilos of ammo. So, he brought loose lead balls, and unprimed cases. We stopped at a gun shop in Darwin, he just simply walked in and bought primers and powder.

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Most unpleasant for me was a Ruger No. 3 Carbine, crescent butt plate, with full house 45-70 loads.
Both my shoulder, and several fingers of my right hand bled.
Just the snottiest little rifle I ever shot.


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460 Wby for me. My 458 Win is positively pleasant in comparison. My 375 H&H more so ....


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Originally Posted by Chipolopolo
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The worst I ever experienced was a 458 Lott on a #1. #1's do not fit me and I only shot it once, never again. A 338-378 on a #1 wasn't much better.


Man, I heard that. I have a #1 tropical in .416 Rigby and it is a bear.
I've owned a couple of #1's in 416 rigby. I had some hot loads that were moving a 400 gn hornady along pushing 2600 fps. They were pretty uncomfortable. Still not as bad as a light weight 375 rum though. smile

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Originally Posted by Chipolopolo
Originally Posted by gunner500
My very worst kicker is an 8-Bore rifle, it fires an 850 gr round ball over 300 grains of FFG Swiss powder at 1400 fps.

The rifle weighs 10.0 lbs even, and IIRC churns out about 190 ft. lbs. recoil energy.

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I shot this 4 Bore in Australia, it weighted 19 pounds. It was a late 1800's era Bland. It shot a 1500 grain lead ball. It was a pleasure to shoot at 19#'s
That is really cool. Would love to shoot that bad boy.

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In my experience, any big bore shot seated at a bench will really hurt. Best to shoot offhand, from a standing rest or from the sticks. Rifle fit is of critical importance with a big bore.

My .470 is quite tolerable offhand for 10 to 12 rounds. More than that and I have a headache later in the day.

The two rifles I usually bring to Africa are a .416 Rigby and a .470 N.E. Neither is punishing regarding recoil. And I practice a lot with them in the months preceding the safari.

Most unpleasant rifle was an issue 1903A3 Springfield. The stock design was very poor for me and the rifle didn't fit me at all. Shooting it from the bench just plain hurt.


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You will all laugh when I tell you this, well, those of you who have never fired one! The most violent recoil I have ever experienced? Perhaps a 12 gauge single shot with 3 inch mag goose load? .375 H&H? .458 Lott? None of these. It was the Smith and Wesson J Frame Scandium revolver in .357 Mag. That damn thing felt like a bomb going off in my hand! Honest to god, it was like someone hit me in the hand with a 2x4! I bought it for an ultralight backpacking gun (it weighed 11.4 oz) but sold it after firing three boxes through it. After firing a full box of .357's through it one day, I couldn't open a door knob with my right hand for a full two days afterwards!

As far as long guns go- has to be my Benelli Super Black Eagle II with 3.5 inch buckshot through it. Weighs way less than my .458 Lott and will buttstroke the hell out of you off the bench! The .458 Lott is a "nice push" in comparison.

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Shot some max book loads through a T/C Encore 416 Rigby, weighed a little over 7 lbs. That was brisk!
I quit shooting 3.5" shells through my Mossberg 835 12 gauge. It recoils more than anything I've ever shot except for the 7 lb Rigby.


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Originally Posted by TrueAt1stLight
You will all laugh when I tell you this, well, those of you who have never fired one! The most violent recoil I have ever experienced? Perhaps a 12 gauge single shot with 3 inch mag goose load? .375 H&H? .458 Lott? None of these. It was the Smith and Wesson J Frame Scandium revolver in .357 Mag. That damn thing felt like a bomb going off in my hand! Honest to god, it was like someone hit me in the hand with a 2x4! I bought it for an ultralight backpacking gun (it weighed 11.4 oz) but sold it after firing three boxes through it. After firing a full box of .357's through it one day, I couldn't open a door knob with my right hand for a full two days afterwards!

As far as long guns go- has to be my Benelli Super Black Eagle II with 3.5 inch buckshot through it. Weighs way less than my .458 Lott and will buttstroke the hell out of you off the bench! The .458 Lott is a "nice push" in comparison.

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Worst? Mossberg 500 with 3 1/2" turkey loads. Next, 375 H&H Ruger #1H w/ 300 Partition Hornady High Energy. Beautiful gun, just kicks.
Would Much rather shoot my 300 Weatherby than that turkey load though.



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My 6.5lb 300 ultra without a brake. I have a marlin 1895 in 45-70 that kicks something fierce when stoked with lots of varget under a 400gr Speer. It really helps that it has no recoil reducing pad of any kind on it. Those two make most my 8.5# 375h&h feel Iike a spit wad shooter.


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Originally Posted by Chipolopolo
Originally Posted by gunner500
My very worst kicker is an 8-Bore rifle, it fires an 850 gr round ball over 300 grains of FFG Swiss powder at 1400 fps.

The rifle weighs 10.0 lbs even, and IIRC churns out about 190 ft. lbs. recoil energy.

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I shot this 4 Bore in Australia, it weighted 19 pounds. It was a late 1800's era Bland. It shot a 1500 grain lead ball. It was a pleasure to shoot at 19#'s




I think Bob said those were 1800 grain balls belching out of that cannon. I shot it with slugs (2100 grains IIRC) before and with full loads it'll get your attention!


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Here's a couple of other pics of shooting it.


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5.5 lb 3.5 12ga with 2 1/4 oz turkey load. tore skin off my cheek

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