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#7202050 - 12/19/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: SU35]  
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BAMF makes some kick butt sliders! I got a set for my son's '07 Tacoma and liked them so much, I ordered a set for my '12. Mine are gonna get installed either Friday or next week (waiting to hear back from the welder...). We got ours powder coated...

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Also got the hi-lift jack and mounts:

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And did the 7-pin relocated under an aftermarket flip-up license plate for both trucks. Both trucks are also equipped with rear air bags - fill nozzles located under the license plate by the relocated 7-pin:

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Son's truck has Bilstein 5100's set at 1.75", my truck I went w/ the Eibach coils and 0 setting on the 5100's for total lift of 1.6".

Very capable, reliable trucks! It's easy to get lost playing around modifying them.

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#7202350 - 12/19/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: Eremicus]  
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Originally Posted by Eremicus
They picked them for their January, 2013 edition.
The winner is the Jeep w/ the Rubicon Package.
No.2 was the Ford w/ the Raptor Package. The best pickup package out there for 4 wheeling.
No.3 was the Dodge w/ the Power Wagon Package. Voted the best 3/4 ton 4WD.
Last place at #7, was the Nissan Xterra Pro-4X. #6 was the Toyota 4Runner Trail. #5 was the 12 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X. And No.4 was the 2012 Toyota Tacoma TRD T/X Baja Series.
Some pretty cool vehicles. Prices running anywhere from about $30,000, for the Xterra Pro, and the Jeep Rubicon to about $42,000 for a Power Wagon or a Raptor.
While I'm sure Consummer Reports won't say much good about some of these choices, the article struck me as pretty good food for thought.
What'ca think ? E


Prices seem way too low to me.

#7206654 - 12/20/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: Foxtrot]  
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i love the rubicon but comparing its offroad capabilities with any pickup is really apples to oranges. the wheelbase, type of suspension and ground clearance are key differentiators. better to compare pickup to pickup and jeep to other similiar vehicles. but the rubicon will still come out in front. its purpose built for offroading.


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#7208317 - 12/20/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: rem141r]  
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Silly that they didn't include the FJ Cruiser 4x4 - which is what Toyota touts as their most capable off-road vehicle.


#7213758 - 12/21/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: rnovi]  
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SU35 - Sweet looking rig!! I like it!!

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#7216192 - 12/22/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: rnovi]  
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They included two Toyotas which tested better. E

#7216253 - 12/22/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: BillyGoatGruff]  
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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff


Yep. You get badazz stickers! grin



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Yeah but you have to have a dodge to get em. Nobody wants a Dodge. grin


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#7216437 - 12/22/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: tzone]  
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My Raptor has served me extremely well.

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#7216927 - 12/22/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: FOsteology]  
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How come the FJ Cruiser wasn't in the mix?

#7222471 - 12/24/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: FOsteology]  
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FOsteology,
I always wondered what a Raptor would look like WITHOUT the silly simulated dirt decals. The real dirt is a big improvement.

I like the looks of your truck.

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#7223083 - 12/24/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: John_G]  
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I don't know. You might try going to their website, and seeing if they tested one and what they thought of it. E

#7223121 - 12/24/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: Eremicus]  
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I'm not a serious off-roader; I just use my 4X4 Tacoma off-road for fishing and hunting. The off-roaders I know, though, hold the FJ in pretty high esteem.

#7226161 - 12/25/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: John_G]  
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It is largely a matter of taste. I prefer to start with a Ford F-350 diesel and then you don't have to add anything to make it stout or look cool. It gets 24 mpg and hauls a ton of stuff. It has no donkey crap add-ons.


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#7226480 - 12/25/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: tzone]  
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Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff


Yep. You get badazz stickers! grin



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Yeah but you have to have a dodge to get em. Nobody wants a Dodge. grin


I never did either, till I wised up and Chevy dropped their trucks till they're practically low-riders. grin

Never been, or will be a Ford guy.

#7242628 - 12/29/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: BillyGoatGruff]  
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I like Dodge trucks....almost as much as I like making fun of em. grin

Yours is pretty bad ass, I'll give ya that.


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#7247626 - 12/31/12 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: tzone]  
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I can't stand it when the auto magazines compare vehicles and rank them. They typically are comparing apples to oranges, and then rank them based on a feature that is used 1% of the time. Absolutely silly. I stopped reading the magazines in the 90s when they ranked the Ford Ranger higher than the Tacoma based on things like road noise and fuel mileage. Little consideration was given to offload capability or longevity.
Out of the group tested, I would take the Power Wagon over the others in a landslide based on overall usefulness, payload, towing, etc... If I'm just traveling off road I'll tow my Yamaha Rhino, or '52 Willys. YMMV.


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#7344149 - 01/21/13 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: FAIR_CHASE]  
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Originally Posted by FAIR_CHASE
Its nothing but advertising $$ that is determined to be the outcome before the testing/research begins.
fixed it for you.

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#7346626 - 01/22/13 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: ConradCA]  
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Both of you guys really need to read the article. They point out the strong and weak points, and say why they picked one over the other. The fact that you may choose to rate them differently, is always your call. For instance, the Dodge Power Wagon can carry far more in it's bed than can the Ford Raptor. If that's important to you, then which rates best to you is odvious.
Likewise, if you need a 3/4 ton truck, odviously the Jeep Rubicon is not going to work.
In other words, it's a good source for reference information.
In their latest contest for Pickup Truck of the Year, they rated the new Dodge 1500 4WD over the Toyota Tacoma Baja. While I can see why they did so, there is no way I'd buy the 1/2 Dodge over the Baja packaged Tacoma. And I'm a huge Dodge fan. E

#7346742 - 01/22/13 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: Eremicus]  
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We must also keep in mind what we actually intend to do with the vehicles. Will it be a daily driver? Will we be racking up a lot of miles each year and thus have to run an all-terrain tire instead of a true offroad tire. Does it have to carry a lot of gear or people? Is it going to cost too much to actually use it like you may want to? Is your offroading in rocky areas or flat and muddy locations? Are you interested in fun or just trying to get there and back without breaking anything?


There are loads of questions that we have to ask ourselves when selecting a 4x4 to meet our own personal needs. I was considering how to best equip myself with a presentable-looking work truck that would also do double-duty around the camp, which involves mud as the main obstacle. I didn't want to run mud tires on my daily driver and have found fullsize trucks to be a bit cumbersome for real woods-work. I wound up just keeping my F150 4x4 with BFG AT's as my daily driver and then picked up an older, used Toyota with mud tires for camp/hunting duty. My father does the same. Your work truck stays presentable much more of the time, without mud and blood all over, and your reall off-road truck is much more capable. Yes, I pay insurance on two vehicles, but I love pulling up in my Ford after work and basically hopping straight into my muddy little Toyota without having to transfer a bunch of gear to go hunting. I grab my rifle and backback and go. And it really does go, relative to a full-size truck. Plus, you do have a spare vehicle if one has to go in the shop or your wife needs to use your pickup. Two of my least glamourous purchases over the last few years have been an old 4-Runner and a deer camp that adjoins my property, but I get more use and enjoyment out of those two items than nearly anything else I own. Just my two cents, for what it's worth. I'm not about to buy a $30k-$50k new ride and use/abuse it like I need to, then have to clean it up to meet a client the next day. No thanks....


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#7347494 - 01/22/13 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: John_G]  
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Originally Posted by John_G
How come the FJ Cruiser wasn't in the mix?


Because they wanted a Dodge to win.


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#7356388 - 01/24/13 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: tzone]  
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For "fourwheeling" I term I have never liked, the list is fine. For working out in the bush or a long truck supported hunting trip, I will take an F-350 Ford diesel any day. Better ride, better mileage, and it will out last everything on the list by 2-3 times. A big truck has room.


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#7357521 - 01/24/13 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: ppine]  
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Originally Posted by ppine
I will take an F-350 Ford diesel any day. Better ride, better mileage, and it will out last everything on the list by 2-3 times.


I know this is the Internet and all, but really?!?!


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#7362194 - 01/25/13 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: hwgtyd]  
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#7363296 - 01/25/13 Re: The best off road vehicles (packages) according to Fourwheeler [Re: SU35]  
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Originally Posted by SU35
This is #1 with me. My 2012 TRD Off Road. Didn't see any reason for the Baja. I added 265 85 16's and sliders on the side, Bilstien 5100's and a 3 leaf pack on the rear.

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Those are fantastic little trucks. I bought one in 2006. It was great off road and very comfortable around town. Nice looking too!

I had to part with mine in 2009 because of a serious financial setback due to the recession. I've been making do with a hooptie 2003 Ford 4WD/AWD Explorer ever since. It's gravel road rated. :^)

My situation has greatly improved. About 3 weeks ago I went to the Jeep dealership and ordered a Wrangler Sport! I'm kind of excited about it. Never owned a Jeep before. The waiting is hard but it'll be just like I want it.

Here's a pic of my Tacoma the day I finished installing the lift with the tire and wheel package.
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It was never that clean again.

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