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#7221201 - 12/23/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Chipolopolo]  
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My friend has a 505Gibbs. The rifle is heavy enough but everytime I fire it, it feels like I've been punched in the face. I have a 500NE which is pleasant in comparison. grin

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#7221212 - 12/23/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by Chipolopolo
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My very worst kicker is an 8-Bore rifle, it fires an 850 gr round ball over 300 grains of FFG Swiss powder at 1400 fps.

The rifle weighs 10.0 lbs even, and IIRC churns out about 190 ft. lbs. recoil energy.

Gunner


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I shot this 4 Bore in Australia, it weighted 19 pounds. It was a late 1800's era Bland. It shot a 1500 grain lead ball. It was a pleasure to shoot at 19#'s


Thats cool as hell, was it a double rifle?

Gunner


Nope, It was a top break single. The thing looked like it was just a couple years old. It was actually over 120 years old. The guy shot about 5 buffalo, a donkey and some other stuff with it. He loaded his ammo every night. You can only fly on Qantas with 5 kilos of ammo. So, he brought loose lead balls, and unprimed cases. We stopped at a gun shop in Darwin, he just simply walked in and bought primers and powder.

#7221256 - 12/23/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Chipolopolo]  
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Most unpleasant for me was a Ruger No. 3 Carbine, crescent butt plate, with full house 45-70 loads.
Both my shoulder, and several fingers of my right hand bled.
Just the snottiest little rifle I ever shot.


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#7221353 - 12/23/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: mcmurphrjk]  
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460 Wby for me. My 458 Win is positively pleasant in comparison. My 375 H&H more so ....


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#7221768 - 12/24/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Chipolopolo]  
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Originally Posted by Chipolopolo
Originally Posted by 6MMWASP
The worst I ever experienced was a 458 Lott on a #1. #1's do not fit me and I only shot it once, never again. A 338-378 on a #1 wasn't much better.


Man, I heard that. I have a #1 tropical in .416 Rigby and it is a bear.
I've owned a couple of #1's in 416 rigby. I had some hot loads that were moving a 400 gn hornady along pushing 2600 fps. They were pretty uncomfortable. Still not as bad as a light weight 375 rum though. smile


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#7221772 - 12/24/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Chipolopolo]  
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Originally Posted by Chipolopolo
Originally Posted by gunner500
My very worst kicker is an 8-Bore rifle, it fires an 850 gr round ball over 300 grains of FFG Swiss powder at 1400 fps.

The rifle weighs 10.0 lbs even, and IIRC churns out about 190 ft. lbs. recoil energy.

Gunner


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I shot this 4 Bore in Australia, it weighted 19 pounds. It was a late 1800's era Bland. It shot a 1500 grain lead ball. It was a pleasure to shoot at 19#'s
That is really cool. Would love to shoot that bad boy.


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#7222251 - 12/24/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunchamp]  
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In my experience, any big bore shot seated at a bench will really hurt. Best to shoot offhand, from a standing rest or from the sticks. Rifle fit is of critical importance with a big bore.

My .470 is quite tolerable offhand for 10 to 12 rounds. More than that and I have a headache later in the day.

The two rifles I usually bring to Africa are a .416 Rigby and a .470 N.E. Neither is punishing regarding recoil. And I practice a lot with them in the months preceding the safari.

Most unpleasant rifle was an issue 1903A3 Springfield. The stock design was very poor for me and the rifle didn't fit me at all. Shooting it from the bench just plain hurt.


#7223136 - 12/24/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Winchestermodel70]  
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#7223230 - 12/24/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: 1234567]  
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You will all laugh when I tell you this, well, those of you who have never fired one! The most violent recoil I have ever experienced? Perhaps a 12 gauge single shot with 3 inch mag goose load? .375 H&H? .458 Lott? None of these. It was the Smith and Wesson J Frame Scandium revolver in .357 Mag. That damn thing felt like a bomb going off in my hand! Honest to god, it was like someone hit me in the hand with a 2x4! I bought it for an ultralight backpacking gun (it weighed 11.4 oz) but sold it after firing three boxes through it. After firing a full box of .357's through it one day, I couldn't open a door knob with my right hand for a full two days afterwards!

As far as long guns go- has to be my Benelli Super Black Eagle II with 3.5 inch buckshot through it. Weighs way less than my .458 Lott and will buttstroke the hell out of you off the bench! The .458 Lott is a "nice push" in comparison.

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#7223282 - 12/24/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: TrueAt1stLight]  
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Shot some max book loads through a T/C Encore 416 Rigby, weighed a little over 7 lbs. That was brisk!
I quit shooting 3.5" shells through my Mossberg 835 12 gauge. It recoils more than anything I've ever shot except for the 7 lb Rigby.


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#7224084 - 12/24/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: TrueAt1stLight]  
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Originally Posted by TrueAt1stLight
You will all laugh when I tell you this, well, those of you who have never fired one! The most violent recoil I have ever experienced? Perhaps a 12 gauge single shot with 3 inch mag goose load? .375 H&H? .458 Lott? None of these. It was the Smith and Wesson J Frame Scandium revolver in .357 Mag. That damn thing felt like a bomb going off in my hand! Honest to god, it was like someone hit me in the hand with a 2x4! I bought it for an ultralight backpacking gun (it weighed 11.4 oz) but sold it after firing three boxes through it. After firing a full box of .357's through it one day, I couldn't open a door knob with my right hand for a full two days afterwards!

As far as long guns go- has to be my Benelli Super Black Eagle II with 3.5 inch buckshot through it. Weighs way less than my .458 Lott and will buttstroke the hell out of you off the bench! The .458 Lott is a "nice push" in comparison.

-John


Shot my friends Ruger "Alaskan" 2 1/2" barreled revolver in 454 Casull with full house loads. There's absolutely no fun in that.


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#7224868 - 12/24/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: colorado]  
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Worst? Mossberg 500 with 3 1/2" turkey loads. Next, 375 H&H Ruger #1H w/ 300 Partition Hornady High Energy. Beautiful gun, just kicks.
Would Much rather shoot my 300 Weatherby than that turkey load though.



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#7224948 - 12/24/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: calikooknic]  
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My 6.5lb 300 ultra without a brake. I have a marlin 1895 in 45-70 that kicks something fierce when stoked with lots of varget under a 400gr Speer. It really helps that it has no recoil reducing pad of any kind on it. Those two make most my 8.5# 375h&h feel Iike a spit wad shooter.


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#7225056 - 12/25/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Chipolopolo]  
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Originally Posted by Chipolopolo
Originally Posted by gunner500
My very worst kicker is an 8-Bore rifle, it fires an 850 gr round ball over 300 grains of FFG Swiss powder at 1400 fps.

The rifle weighs 10.0 lbs even, and IIRC churns out about 190 ft. lbs. recoil energy.

Gunner




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I shot this 4 Bore in Australia, it weighted 19 pounds. It was a late 1800's era Bland. It shot a 1500 grain lead ball. It was a pleasure to shoot at 19#'s




I think Bob said those were 1800 grain balls belching out of that cannon. I shot it with slugs (2100 grains IIRC) before and with full loads it'll get your attention!


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#7225058 - 12/25/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunchamp]  
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Here's a couple of other pics of shooting it.


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#7225241 - 12/25/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: AkMike1]  
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5.5 lb 3.5 12ga with 2 1/4 oz turkey load. tore skin off my cheek

#7225464 - 12/25/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: AkMike1]  
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Originally Posted by AkMike1
Here's a couple of other pics of shooting it.


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Hey there Mike, fun trip eh? Cal did tell me with full house loads that Bland is a nasty piece. Those loads Bob had were very pleasant.

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#7225500 - 12/25/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Chipolopolo]  
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So as not to keep everybody wondering what the results of said trip were. This was a DR trip to OZ a bunch of us did in June this year. Noted Double Rifle author and gentlemen, Cal Pappas was on hand and wrote a nice article that came out in Dangerous Game magazine last issue.

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#7226242 - 12/25/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: AkMike1]  
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Originally Posted by AkMike1
Here's a couple of other pics of shooting it.


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Dang, that thing kicks so hard it tore the right side of your shirt up. grin

#7226274 - 12/25/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: GeorgiaBoiler]  
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12 gauge with 2 3/4" slugs. The day i bought my Rem. 870 i shot 60 rnds. thru it...the next day i was back n blue!! The only thing that recoiled more was my buddys 12 gauge w/ 3" slugs.

#7226332 - 12/25/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: 1tnhunter]  
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12ga H&R with a hard plastic buttplate shooting 3" 00 Buck. eek


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#7226490 - 12/25/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: FC363]  
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With the KDF brake it was almost tolerable (15 rds/ session). I removed the brake to see if point of impact changed. On the second shot the bolt handle bruised the outside of my hand. The brake went back on and stayed on until I sold the rifle.


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#7226595 - 12/25/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Chipolopolo]  
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Yep! That was a very nice trip! the only thing better would have been getting my permits a tad earlier so I could have taken my 450 NE.. But it would have been lost along with my baggage so maybe it's better that it didn't go?


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#7226607 - 12/25/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Cowboybart]  
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Why is it that a couple hundred fps more goes from Ok recoil to ouch? My 500 Jeffery shooting 570g TSX's at 2300 fps is fun to shoot offhand at least for the first 10 shots. Shooting the same bullet at 2400 fps is less fun and at 2500 fps it's no fun at all! Recoil at 2300 fps is 83.62 ft/lbs with recoil velocity at 21.88. At 2500 fps recoil is 102.22 ft/lbs with recoil velocity of 24.19. Maybe I've just reached my tolerance (or I'm just a wuss)?


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