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Re: 200 VS 250 VS 300 grain Bullet for Deer Hunting [Re: claybreaker] #7159820 12/08/12
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.... I don't really have a bullet preference, but I feel Blackhorn 209 weighed out on a scale is the only way to go...


I don't want to derail the discussion, but I think (and I assume) most folks are referring to "volume" when quoting black-powder and their substitute's charge quantities. Maybe that is why you stated "weighed out on a scale".

Carry on,


Yep. My groups are a lot tighter weighed out. I use the TC plastic tubes to pre-measure it in. I'm sure you know this already, but 120gr by volume is 84gr by weight.

http://www.blackhorn209.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/b209muzzleloaderdata.pdf

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Re: 200 VS 250 VS 300 grain Bullet for Deer Hunting [Re: doctor_Encore] #7175763 12/12/12
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I took down a huge doe last night using the 200 Shockwave for the first time. The shot was right behind the near shoulder broadside at 125 yards. I have never seen this much internal bleeding in a deer, ever. I knocked out both lungs, removed the top of the heart completely and blew up the opposite knee to smithereens.
This bullet is so much better than the 250. Recoil is mild. Can't wait to see what velocity is. My gun will put them into inch groups at 100 yards.

Re: 200 VS 250 VS 300 grain Bullet for Deer Hunting [Re: Hawkeye_Reloader] #7176014 12/12/12
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You should measure your drop out 100, 200, and 300 yards when you take it to the range as well.


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Re: 200 VS 250 VS 300 grain Bullet for Deer Hunting [Re: LFD] #7221589 12/24/12
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I've had very good luck with Speer 270 grain .429 bullet with Harvester Crusher sabot cup.

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Re: 200 VS 250 VS 300 grain Bullet for Deer Hunting [Re: hunter01] #7224456 12/24/12
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My T/C Bone Collector really likes 100 grains of Triple 7 and a 250 grain T/C Shockwave. I've never went heavier or lighter, just stuck with this as it seems to be a real tack driver out to even 200 yards.

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Re: 200 VS 250 VS 300 grain Bullet for Deer Hunting [Re: LFD] #7227865 12/25/12
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Have to agree with Riverhawk. I've used the same load for the last couple of years and have had no problems shooting out to 300 yds. with a TC Pro Hunter. I have to come up with a legal load for colorado elk next season. Trying Hornady FPS 350 bullets with BH209. Let you all know how it goes. If anyone has any ideas, please share them!


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Re: 200 VS 250 VS 300 grain Bullet for Deer Hunting [Re: Hawkeye_Reloader] #7228141 12/26/12
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye_Reloader
I took down a huge doe last night using the 200 Shockwave for the first time. The shot was right behind the near shoulder broadside at 125 yards. I have never seen this much internal bleeding in a deer, ever. I knocked out both lungs, removed the top of the heart completely and blew up the opposite knee to smithereens.
This bullet is so much better than the 250. Recoil is mild. Can't wait to see what velocity is. My gun will put them into inch groups at 100 yards.



Just what I have been telling you guys for years.

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Re: 200 VS 250 VS 300 grain Bullet for Deer Hunting [Re: Hawkeye_Reloader] #7228143 12/26/12
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye_Reloader
If I am using 110g BH209 and the 200 Shockwave zeroed at 100 yards, what is the drop for
150
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Thanks!
Chris


Hawkeye,

I use a Leopold 3X-9X on all my T/C rifles, I set the scope to 9X and use the intersection of the thick and vetical thin cross hair dead on at 200 yards. I would hold high lungs at 150 yards and I never killed past 205 yards. Even at 205 yards the 200 grain shock wave performance is very impessive.

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Re: 200 VS 250 VS 300 grain Bullet for Deer Hunting [Re: LFD] #7231260 12/26/12
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Doctor Encore you have the right idea. I have a Luepold VX-III 3-9 with Long Range reticle. I sight in on 9X with 250 gr. Barnes EZ's At 150 yds. with main crosshair. the following indentions are at 200, 250 and 300 on top of post. It is almost right on at those distances. Shot an anetelope at 307 yds. and a deer at 295 yds. People don't believe it but it can be done with the right set-up.
Most of my shots are much less but I practice a lot with that rifle and load to be able to achieve that kind of distant. My TC pro Hunter has been accurized and trigger work has been performed by Mike Bellm. It really makes a difference. As always, field conditions determine if a long shot is possible.


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Re: 200 VS 250 VS 300 grain Bullet for Deer Hunting [Re: RCB] #7239405 12/29/12
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That you guys are throwing out all these BH209 charges of 90 to well over 100 gr , is that by weight or volume ? I weigh mine and am only using a 75 gr charge behind a 300 gr Hornady .


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Re: 200 VS 250 VS 300 grain Bullet for Deer Hunting [Re: wildone] #7239565 12/29/12
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Originally Posted by wildone
That you guys are throwing out all these BH209 charges of 90 to well over 100 gr , is that by weight or volume ? I weigh mine and am only using a 75 gr charge behind a 300 gr Hornady .


Unless somebody specifically says that the charge is weighed assume that it's measured by volume. By volume, is the only correct way of referencing black powder substitutes and it avoids confusion ... unless otherwise stated.

When I tested weighing BH209, ten charges measured by volume in a clear TC powder measure set at 105 grains, averaged 77.3 grains when weighed on an RCBS scale.

So ... using those results your weighed charge of 75 grains equals 101.9 grains by volume (in my clear TC powder measure).

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Here's what Western Powder says about weighing charges of BH209 in their FAQ's.

5. Can I weigh my charges?

Yes. If you prefer to weigh charges, you can convert the volume load recommendations into weighed grains by multiplying the volume load by 0.7. Example: 100 units by volume x 0.7 = 70 grains by weight. 110 volume charge x 0.7 = 77 grains by weight.

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Re: 200 VS 250 VS 300 grain Bullet for Deer Hunting [Re: wildone] #7241783 12/29/12
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Volume! I weigh all my charges too, but since we are talking muzzleloaders here and NOT confuse we are talking volume unlees specifically stated.


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