Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns ...a few bullets tests...

If you want to test what SHOULD be a kick butt 22WMR load, I would suggest the new Hornaday Critical Defense 45gr load formulated to bring top shelf velocity from a handgun. I can send you a couple if you like.

MARK

...have not been able to find any locally....

Bob

I will try to remember to ship a couple out to you. Any timetable on running those Buffalo Bore 380 HP rounds through your test mediums soon? Do I need to fly out with my Delta Elite and give those 10mm rounds a platform to perform from Just kidding on that last one, cannot afford the plane fare these days <G> . Thanks again for a great and entertaining thread. One of my favorites of all time from the 'fire.

i will have to go look, but i think i have some barnes pistol projectiles in 155grain .40caliber that of course would work in a 10mm. That would be interesting to see go through those milk jugs.

Test #21
Colt Diamondback
4"
CCI .22 Magnum +V 40 grain HP
1312 fps

Split carton, punched through two jugs and found between 2-3 jugs...no expansion...

Now the question is...why didn't the CCI go through all four jugs like the Fiocchi did?

Bob

Interesting...

Probably would have to repeat test with both rounds and take an average of each. Maybe one or the other's performance in your one time test was a fluke.

Maybe the Fiocchi tumbled faster, lost less momentum, restabilized quicker and so penetrated farther.

If CCI spent more time in the water plowing sideways, it could have lost momentum faster and penetrated less.

If it happens every time, there must certainly be something different between the two bullets.

...found a 10mm to borrow so will do the 10mm test soon.

Bob

EXCELLENT! I am SOOO looking forward to seeing how those Gold Dot loads perform in your test medium.

Test #22
Colt Diamondback
4"
CCI 30 grain TNT HP
1254 fps

Split Carton #1, hole through Carton #2, stopped in Jug #1..perfect mushroom...right down two the little Gold Dot in the center...

...also need to edit Tests #20 & #21. There was a hole through a second carton also before penetrating the plastic jugs.

When testing the rimfire ammo two, not one carton is used. Plastic jugs are very tough and don't give a good indication of shocking power. I would use nothing but milk cartons but they are just too hard to come by so they are used sparingly...Bob

Test #23
Ruger MkIII
5.5"
CCI .22 Stinger
1208 fps

Split carton #1, hole through Carton #2 and through Jugs 1-3 and stuck to the face of #4.

I have always liked the terminal perfromance of those Stinger loads. This one penetrated far better than I thought it would. If I was forced to use a 22LR for defense I might alternate these with some flat nosed non HP 40gr ammo like I do in the Kel Tec P3AT loads in .380.

I may have messed up...I am not sure if I used all cartons for the Stinger or two cartons and then 4 jugs... I am checking with my friend who was there....

Some other theories on stopping power....

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=96165&page=1

RJM, thanks for the link to that article! It is a kind of long read, but a REALLY GOOD treatise. I saved it to my favorites and am going to have my wife read it tonight. I have her about talked into upgrading the P3AT to at least a 9mm or 357SIG. She is petite with slender hands and fingers so too big of a gun just will not be fired, practiced with or carried, ever.

Looked at the new little SIG 9mm's last week and they are very intriguing to say the least. Might end up with one of those in the house. She would need to practice much more with it as it has a manual external safety and functions a lot like a mini 1911 or Colt Mustang but maybe she is ready to step up to one now.

Tset #24
Taurus 941
3"
CCI .22 Magnum 40 grain FMJ
Velocity not recorded

Zipped through 4 plastic milk jugs and stopped against vest insert.

About what I would have figured for that round. I have read and heard that 22WMR rounds will defeat most body armour, as will the new 5.7 FN round.

Bump...

Yeah, Bump! Where is the 10mm Gold Dot test...

I and another member here are collecting milk jugs to do some additional testing and reporting on some bigger handguns.

..it got too cold...and now it is 10* out.... Testing suspended till spring...

Two of my friends did get 10mms and so your rounds will be #1 in the spring...

Bob