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#7247445 - 12/30/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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I've shot several different big-bore calibers (.40 and above) and none were too painful because they were in guns designed to make the recoil manageable (or at least not too painful). The only ones I have fired and refuse to again are the .375RUM and .378 Weatherby in sporter weight rifles- they just flat out hurt. It's not necessarily how many foot pounds are delivered - it's how their recieved...

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#7247565 - 12/31/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Redleg172]  
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I absolutely agree, back in the mid 90's my 378 WBY developed a slight bulge at 12 o'clock between the top two cuts of the magna-port, I believe magna-port used to make the cuts a bit larger but stopped on the smaller contour WBY barrels.

Anyway, I had the Smith cut the barrel to 24" and recrown, already had the rifle steel bedded in a Pacific Research syn stock [IIRC they were later Rimrock stocks], without the magna-port and in that syn stock that 378 WBY was the rudest and loudest weapon I have ever touched off to date.

The 300 gr Partitions and a very large charge of IMR-4350 plain sucked from the bench. cry

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#7251894 - 12/31/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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I have 9 378 Weatherby rifles of various vintages including a 20" carbine and will shoot any and all of them any time compared to those darn 12 ga pump shotguns using 3-1/2" loads. Way too light with crappy stocks. The only guns that have ever hurt me from a 577 Nitro down has been those evil pump guns.

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#7252004 - 12/31/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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Originally Posted by gunner500


My 505 Gibbs weighs 10 lbs even, I dont run a scope on it, the 600 gr Woodleighs at 2450 fps really boot, I have backed this round of reloads back down to a more civil 2250 fps. wink

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You're an animal! When I first fired my .500 A-Sq with 600 grains at 2450 I thought the rifle had hurt me. It just was all over me. My right arm was numb for 30 minutes aftwerwards, and I was really fretting that I might not get the feeling back until it started tingling again. I wrote the editor of Rifle magazine to ask him about big loads since I'd seen some articles in the rag and thought he might know. He did; told me to pack the case with H-4831 and I'd be good. This was back in 1996. My rifle was 11.25 pounds. The memory still makes me dizzy.
I started loading shells with H-1000 and H-870 then began to bring the velocity back up with IMR-7828 and RL-22 in stages. It took me a year before I could pull the laynard at full velocity again. Yeesh.




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#7252525 - 01/01/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Wbypoor]  
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Dang Wbypoor, ya need a few more 378's LOL, mine so described wasnt the hardest kicking rifle, it was just a rude nasty ill-mannered bucking sombish, that syn stock may have made it close to a pound lighter, not to mention losing a bit over 2"s of barrel length.

TKK, I ran those 600 gr Woodleighs to max velocity to settle in the stock bedding with the cross-bolts, just wanted to make sure all would hold together well, it does shocked, the 600 gr PP soft points at 2250 fps will perform better at the lower speed, makes a much nicer rifle to fire as well. grin

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#7253462 - 01/01/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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i'm a lightweight compared to some of you guys but i have a win 94 timber carbine in 450 marlin that is obnoxious off the bench. it weighs 6 lbs and has a ported 18" barrel. not so bad in the woods but off the bench it is obnoxious.


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#7253688 - 01/01/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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Originally Posted by gunner500
Dang Wbypoor, ya need a few more 378's LOL,


I'm in total agreement with you brother. #10 is in the works and I've got one eye looking for #11...a Jap with exceptional wood. I'd like #12 to be a Mark V born in 1960, same as me. Then I'll be done. Maybe.



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#7253914 - 01/01/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Wbypoor]  
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I hit the dirt in '63, may have to look around and find a really nice LazerMark or ClassicMark II in 378 WBY again. wink

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#7257583 - 01/02/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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Originally Posted by gunner500
I hit the dirt in '63, may have to look around and find a really nice LazerMark or ClassicMark II in 378 WBY again. wink

Gunner


Good luck with your hunt, those two critters are mighty shy.


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#7259514 - 01/02/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Wbypoor]  
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10-4 Thanks.

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#7277218 - 01/06/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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Most recoil I remember was 3 rounds of 500 Jeffery when I was about 15 years old. Man did my brain get rattled.


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#7287380 - 01/08/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunchamp]  
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The .458 Lott kicked my butt in four rounds, and put a hairline split in my brand new Ruger RSM's stock tang while it was at it. My threshold might be .375 H&H for accurate, somewhat relaxed shooting.

Perhaps Ruger will fix or replace the stock and I'll give it another go.

#7289504 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: philthygeezer]  
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My 500 Jeffrey shooting 600 gr bullets. I still haven't worked up to a max load as the 2200 fps starting loads got my attention and then some off the bench.

I'd say once you get to pushing a 500gr or heavier bullet 2200 fps or faster, you're in a different ballpark of recoil compared to lesser rounds. Even though you can concentrate and not flinch, and with proper technique they won't hurt you, but it takes a tremendous amount of concentration to squeeze off each shot because the gun is going to come back hard.

I loaded 350's @ 2400 fps out of my 458 lott and it was downright reasonable, once I even fired off 2 boxes of ammo during a lunchtime range session. But the 500 gr loads, 10 shots in a session was often too much.



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#7289872 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: 458 Lott]  
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How would shooting your very heavy aluminum ramrod out of your TC encore with 150grs of pellets compare with a some of these monsters yall are shooting?

I have been considering doing a big bore but may not after reading some of these posts

#7290053 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: GeorgiaBoiler]  
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I might sound like a Polyanna, but a plain old Remington Model 700 BDL in .338 Win Mag was the worst for me. Much worse than any of the .375's I've owned and also much worse than my Model 700 Classic in .416 Rem Mag. I guess it just didn't fit me well or something.

#7290155 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Arac]  
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Over the years I've had several 375s, several 416s, a 10lb 6 oz 450/400 and a 10lb 13oz 470.
But I found my limit with a 450 Ackley (essentially a Lott) that belonged to a PH in Zim. It was about 9-9.5 lbs and truly memorable.


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#7290358 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Savuti]  
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Boat paddle stock Ruger .338. The first one hurt so much I had to try it again. This is a two shot rifle but so far has only needed one. An amazing amount of pain, and I routinely shoot a .375 H&H and .416 Taylor, both under 9 pounds, taught me to ABSOLUTELY put the first round where no second round will be required.

I actually, finally, bought a new stock and that made it a four round rifle.

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#7290530 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: bluesman]  
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The best way to put any objectionable medium bore in perspective is to shoot a few rounds through it, then shoot 3 rounds through a 458 lott or larger, and then shoot your medium bore again.

I gurantee your medium bore will no longer feel objectionable. I also highly recomend a past mag shoulder pad for benchwork, though a lott or larger will still knock you around.


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#7290638 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: bluesman]  
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Originally Posted by bluesman
Boat paddle stock Ruger .338. The first one hurt so much I had to try it again. This is a two shot rifle but so far has only needed one. An amazing amount of pain, and I routinely shoot a .375 H&H and .416 Taylor, both under 9 pounds, taught me to ABSOLUTELY put the first round where no second round will be required.

I actually, finally, bought a new stock and that made it a four round rifle.

Terry


i had a Ruger tang safety .338 that i hated. sold it after just a few rounds.

i just bought one of those boat paddle .338s. so far so good, but all i've shot in it is 225 gr. bullets.

wanna sell your boat paddle stock?


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#7290665 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: toad]  
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I once owned two MK V 300 Weatherby's. One a Euromark with beautiful wood, and one an Accumark. I shot the Accumark prone with factory Nosler 180's. Did I mention I used to be a scope crawler?

#7291657 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: dogwater]  
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I've had rifles up to the 458 Lott but the thing that put my keester in a puddle of water was a lowly 31/2",12 ga. H&R single shot shot gun I bought for a cheap turkey gun for my son-in-law. I don't know what these long tent pegs weigh but it isn't enough.

I had some Win 31/2 inchers and rather than shoot offhand, I squatted--didn't sit because a recent rain had made the place a swamp. I wanted to pattern a few of these loads to see what the ugly thing would do--touched one off whilest sitting on my hocks and promptly dunked my a_ _in the drink. It was memorable. Gave it to my son-in-law with a warning.

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