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Cast bullets for edible small game, JHP pistol ammo for sheer destructiveness on non-edible game & plinking. 150 gr SPs for hog sized critters, 180-200 gr SP for deer, and 220-250 gr for big stuff.
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My old Ruger 77 RS Whelen in one of Mark's stocks. It goes 7 1/2# which isn't too bad and just works pushing the 225 gr TSX.

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Many interesting responses and Ruger seems to have a fine reputation for being a no nonsense dependable rifle one can count on. Also seems more than a few think they would be stuck somewhere out West or in a place like Alaska and didn't consider having the local being further East.

When I threw the question out I didn't think all that much re my own answer, and after sleeping on it, this came to me this AM. Omitting the guiding avocation, and just making a living off of two rifles, my choice would be a well built rifle in a .22Hornet or even a .22Mag-I think CZ makes those-especially If I was roaming East of the Mississippi. Stuff your pocket full of shells and you are good to go; from small game to Deer at reasonable ranges. Lots of ammo and little carrying weight.

My big rifle would be a solid Winchester pre 64 Model 70 or a Ruger, both in .308W. More than enough cartridge for most everything and if you reload your own has a smaller appetite for powder, with the resulting less cost per round, more rounds per pound and less weight to carry around.

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battue I don't see my choices as being much different from what I use now smile or what I've used for general hunting the past 40 years or so.

Mostly, this has been a Model 70(pre 64 or Classic)or Mauser 98,dropped in a good synthetic,with a 22" barrel for standard calibers (270,280,or 30/06);or a 24" barrel for magnum cartridges.They have all been built "light"(relatively for what they were),with an eye toward durability.Sometimes SS and sometimes CM.

So chamberings have varied over the years and there are lots of good choices but the general utlity of a 30/06 or 375H&H can't be denied.

In the east,I found out years back that I was not terribly handicapped in the brush for fast shooting with a light bolt action.The same rifles have been used east and west,because I hate things that are complicated,and my experience has been that only about 100-200 yards seperates the game I have killed in the west, from the longest distances I have dealt with in the east.Might be where and how I hunt but has been true for me nonetheless. smile

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Bob, I think all have given responses that would work and we all have our favorites that have served us well over time. You are correct in that for the most part not getting it done rests with us and not solid equipment made by any manufacturer.

Now, the sun is out, the cold snap has broke, the Grouse should be out enjoying the day while refilling their crop, it should be a magnificent day to be roaming and I'm going to try and find a Grouse for dinner. I need one in light of the fact that after cleaning the last one, I left it on the countertop while I disposed of the carcass and Toby thought he deserved it more than me. He's right, so I can't be all that putout. laugh



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battue,

a very interesting topic. I only have two centerfire rifles, both left handed Ruger Hawkeyes, both wearing McMillan stocks.

Unfortunately, left-handed stainless wasn't available when I got my Ruger hawkeyes. So guess I'd have to get them cherakoted coated then?

Anyways, ones a 308win with Leupold FXII 6x42 while the other is 223rem with Leupold VXIII 3.5-10x40mm.

I picked those calibers because I can use Varget powder to reload both cartridges thus simplifying things.

In 223rem, I can load either 60gr v-max for my varmnit/predator hunting then load 60gr nosler partition (or 62gr tsx) to push its use on whitetail deer here in western pennsylvania.

For 308win, I can load cheap cup n core 150gr hornady interlocks for practice and/or deer hunting, or just load 150gr nosler partition as a good overall hunting load, or perhap a 150gr barnex tsx/ttsx for whatever the partition/cup n core couldn't handle.

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The Rugers just aren't accurate enough to be interesting.


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
The Rugers just aren't accurate enough to be interesting.


Nor are your opinions.


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Not my opinion. Well known fact and has been for years.


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This is the one I own that would probably meet the criteria you mentioned.

Ruger Hawkeye All-Weather, Mickey Sako classic, Leupold VX-2, Leupold Rings. 308 Winchester.

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...says the man with a Winchester logo under his name and probably hasn't owned two Ruger rifles in his entire life...

It's OK. Some people just can't shoot.


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Originally Posted by leomort
battue,

a very interesting topic. I only have two centerfire rifles, both left handed Ruger Hawkeyes, both wearing McMillan stocks.

Unfortunately, left-handed stainless wasn't available when I got my Ruger hawkeyes. So guess I'd have to get them cherakoted coated then?

Anyways, ones a 308win with Leupold FXII 6x42 while the other is 223rem with Leupold VXIII 3.5-10x40mm.

I picked those calibers because I can use Varget powder to reload both cartridges thus simplifying things.

In 223rem, I can load either 60gr v-max for my varmnit/predator hunting then load 60gr nosler partition (or 62gr tsx) to push its use on whitetail deer here in western pennsylvania.

For 308win, I can load cheap cup n core 150gr hornady interlocks for practice and/or deer hunting, or just load 150gr nosler partition as a good overall hunting load, or perhap a 150gr barnex tsx/ttsx for whatever the partition/cup n core couldn't handle.

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That's about as sensible as it gets! Now all's you need is a bucket full of tags. I plan on setting up my kids similarly. It should cover all their bases. Specialization will be up to them.

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Light done right,will never be trumped for Utility...if only because,less IS more.

To date,the best OEM Killing Rifle on the Planet,is the Montucky 7 Whizzum. I hear they can take a lick,hear they shoot well,hear they manage felt recoil nicely and hear they pack a purty good punch.

Which is the sorta things I like to hear.

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Model 7 SS 7mm RSAUM
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VX/FX3 6X42 or 3.5-10X40 either with a M1 up button

Or cut to the damn chase and buy a Montana in your liking.

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Originally Posted by shortactionsmoker
...says the man with a Winchester logo under his name and probably hasn't owned two Ruger rifles in his entire life...

It's OK. Some people just can't shoot.


Owned a pile of Rugers and own some now. In fact I just bought and sold a brand new M77 a few months ago because it wouldn't shoot close to MOA. If a rifle won't shoot under MOA with some form of commerical ammo I won't keep it. Ruger still hasn't figured it out. The #1s are even worse. Maybe accuracy doesn't matter to you or you can't shoot sub-MOA with any rifle.


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I don't buy "commercial" ammo. I load everything that goes down the tube -- that's because accuracy "doesn't matter" to me. I've probably owned 25-30 Ruger rifles in the last 10-15 years and I'll admit I had one that wouldn't shoot. It was a 6mm Remington in a 77MKII. It went down the road....

Ruger still makes a nice rifle. Their new hammer forged barrels are as good as any production rifle maker puts out.

Slamming Ruger while throwing props for Winchester and Remington just doesn't make any sense to me. It does tell me something about your knowledge and ability.

You need to sell off some of those Remington's, Winchesters and Rugers......and go buy a Cooper. Then you'll have a platform for accuracy that few can dispute.....I'm not guessing. I've been there too.


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Originally Posted by BlackFrog
Ruger M77 may not win any beauty or lightweight contests, but the M77 action with integral scope mounts it is about as bomb-proof a rig as there is out there....


Got that right.

I'd be carrying one in 280 All Weather backed up by my 1885 in 300 WSM.


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
The Rugers just aren't accurate enough to be interesting.


The question was not about interesting accuracy.

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More than a little fond of Nula and Kimber. For long term down and dirty I'd take the Kimber.


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Don't tell My wife, but i could make do just fine with my kimber 300wsm, rem 721 .270 and custom 700 257wby, Leupold or Zeissglass. Ttsx our accubonds but ssssshhhhhhhh.....

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