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#7303919 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: Sharps1874]  
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Chris, I really like your diagnosis except for one thing. This sure looks like a true vernier scale. Look close at the marks. That has to be a true vernier. It is set at 0.32" and you can see how it would walk up the staff to 0.33, 0.34 etc and down to 0.31 and so on.
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#7304099 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: BrentD]  
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Problem is Brent, you need to carefully reread my post. I said the Tang sight in the picture/"Link" Pacecars posted above (click on the link that says Axtelljpg.)is not a Riflesmith sight. It is, in fact a C.Sharps tang sight.
The photo you reposted above is not the tang sight in the "Linked" photo.
The tang sight picture you just posted is a "Riflesmith" and sure as heck is not color case hardened.
Sorry I got you so confused.
Chris

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#7304105 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: Sharps1874]  
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Yup. My mistake. Have a beer on me wink

The one in the photo here, however, I do not believe is an Axtell either. Maybe but it's a dead ringer in every way except bluing for an MVA midrange.

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#7304142 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: BrentD]  
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How much do you want to put on that last statement professor?

#7304156 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: Sharps1874]  
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That it is a dead wringer for an MVA except for finish. I could bet a fair bit on that. There are about 10,000 Elvis impersonators too. Some of them pretty good, but that does mean Elvis lives.

What makes it an Axtell and not an MVA?


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#7304200 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: BrentD]  
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The partially blued vernier scale edge of the sight (below the ZERO, the color of the blueing and the "A" inside the Shield on the bottom of the base.

#7304202 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: Sharps1874]  
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I'm on my 2nd beer!

#7304438 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: Sharps1874]  
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You ain't won yet! WE haven't seen that A. Might be an MVA under there. But if you happen to frequent any of the matches I go to, we can make this beer wager for real. You have to reveal which of the 0.75 billion Chris's in the universe you are before we get to know what's on the underside of that sight.


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#7304620 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: BrentD]  
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The fun one........3rd beer........I better not drive tonight.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0xAh2X9HtI

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#7304668 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: Sharps1874]  
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Na, there are no fun Chris's. Gotta step up and take off the mask.

Hmm, how about a Scotty Karate Scotch Ale or maybe a Lagunita's Maximus. Such hard decisions.

I'm not driving anywhere, but I have to finish butchering this deer, w/o slicing off a thumb.


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#7304710 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: BrentD]  
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Pacecars, Have you pulled that sight yet? I'm getting thirsty!

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#7304714 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: BrentD]  
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Here is a MVA 107 LR that cane on my Shiloh ten years ago it's the same as the mid range just shorter. If you look at the top of the staff it has sharp corners but the ones you get now the top is rounded. Also the screw on the base holding the staff is screwed in from the left. I think that sight is a later sight then from before 2000.

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#7304967 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: Kurt71]  
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Kurt, I can't get your pictures enlarged.

So, I went down to the safe and pulled my Sharps out with it's MVA midrange vernier. I can't see any differences except finish. Every detail I look at appears to be the same. Even the number of rows of stipling on the elevator knob is the same. So are the corners of the staff and the staff mounting screw.

I've been tempted to refinish mine because it is too glossy black, so I'm not surprised if someone else has refinished theirs.

Years ago, I had an Axtell long range vernier and I don't recall it was so nearly identical to the MVA.

I'm running out of scotch ale now...


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#7305122 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: BrentD]  
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Sorry for the delay. I pulled the sight and on the bottom is an A in a shield. After wiping the oil off the staff looks blued but the base still appears case colored.


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#7305151 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: pacecars]  
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Looks like Chris is the winner.




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#7305156 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: pacecars]  
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Well, DAMN! But Chris is too secretive to collect.



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#7305193 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: BrentD]  
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After all that I think it will stay. Folded forward I can see through the shaft to use the barrel sights. I need to call Shiloh for the front sight


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#7305239 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: pacecars]  
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Brent,
I will be in DeSoto at my sons next weekend or the week after
that and I don't drink.....because it makes me fall down!
It is too bad that the Axtell Rifle Company went out of business.
They really did have some quality rifles/sights.


Ronnie,
A great looking Shiloh and a top quality sight. Just a little refined for hunting. The MVA # 131 works great in the field.http://www.montanavintagearms.com/131_windgauge.html It will make a good hunting rifle. I looked at it on Buffalo Arms sight myself.

#7305277 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: Sharps1874]  
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It was everything I was looking for. The only change I would have done if I was ordering it would be the 1/2 round barrel just because I like the way they look. I would hate to mess up the way this one balances though


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#7305364 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: pacecars]  
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Desoto, eh? Well if traveling by Story City, I'm just a few hundred yds off the interstate. Give me a holler, you are welcome anytime.

While AXtell sights were pretty nice, their rifles were just pretty? Do you have one? I do, and it took an immense amount of time, $$$ and skilled friends to get it running right. Every year, a number of us Axtell owners get together at matches and swap sob stories.

Shiloh is due out with their own 77 made with some help (little I bet) from the fixtures they bought from Axtell.

Brent


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#7305662 - 01/12/13 Re: What sight II [Re: BrentD]  
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Originally Posted by BrentD
Kurt, I can't get your pictures enlarged.



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