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so sor that is the 300 weatherby 30-06 is Reloader #19 51.5 grain max

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No loading data but I bought a box of 30-06 250 grain RNSP loaded by Circle B ammunition. Will lost report after firing.


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Originally Posted by MuskegMan
Here's the data - published in 1986
26" test bbl
Std large rifle primer
308 Win - commercial brass (manufacturer not specified)

250 gr bullet:

H4831
start - 43.0 gr / 1,990 fps / 40.6 kCUP
max - 45.0 / 2,099 fps / 47.0 kCUP

H4350
start - 41.0 gr / 1,988 fps / 41.4 kCUP
max - 43.0 / 2,083 fps / 47.1 kCUP

H414
start - 41.0 gr / 2,009 fps / 43.1 kCUP
max - 43.0 / 2,142 fps / 49.0 kCUP

H380
start - 40.0 gr / 2,025 fps / 44.6 kCUP
max - 41.0 / 2,088 fps / 50.2 kCUP
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Originally Posted by MuskegMan
Brainfart on my part - you wanted '06 data.

26" test bbl
Std large rifle primer
30-06 - commercial brass (manufacturer not specified)

250 gr bullet:

H4831
start - 52.0 gr / 2,086 fps / 45.2 kCUP
max - 54.0 / 2,180 fps / 48.0 kCUP

H4350
start - 48.0 gr / 2,049 fps / 43.2 kCUP
max - 50.0 / 2,131 fps / 46.5 kCUP

I'd run H4831. Don't want to burn up the box I have though.


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In Finn Aagaard's article on the 30-06 in his NRA book "Hunting Rifles & Cartridges," he reports using 53 grains of IMR-4831 as a max load under the 250-grain Barnes RNSP, getting 2,300 fps in a 22" barrel. I'd start around 49 grains and work up.

The point was to test the 250 Barnes against more modern designs, and the Barnes did not fare well.

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The performance of the 200- and 250-grain RNSP bullets was rather disappointing. They had a tendency to come apart or lose their lead cores, and the 200-gr. boat tail bettered them, while the 180-grain Hornady came within a hair of matching them. If these bullets have any purpose, it is as stoppers to be slammed into large, heavy-boned game at close range. I have to infer that they are not up the the work.

Later in the article, he advocates for the 180-grain Nosler Partition as an all-around choice, and says
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...when the utmost in bone-smashing penetration is imperative, the 200-gr. Nosler Partition bullet is the only way to go.

Many years ago I tried the 250 Barnes in a 24" 1903 Springfield with H4831 (?). I think I got something like 2,150 fps.

I still have a few on my loading bench.


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Originally Posted by okie john
In Finn Aagaard's article on the 30-06 in his NRA book "Hunting Rifles & Cartridges," he reports using 53 grains of IMR-4831 as a max load under the 250-grain Barnes RNSP, getting 2,300 fps in a 22" barrel. I'd start around 49 grains and work up.

The point was to test the 250 Barnes against more modern designs, and the Barnes did not fare well.

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The performance of the 200- and 250-grain RNSP bullets was rather disappointing. They had a tendency to come apart or lose their lead cores, and the 200-gr. boat tail bettered them, while the 180-grain Hornady came within a hair of matching them. If these bullets have any purpose, it is as stoppers to be slammed into large, heavy-boned game at close range. I have to infer that they are not up the the work.

Later in the article, he advocates for the 180-grain Nosler Partition as an all-around choice, and says
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...when the utmost in bone-smashing penetration is imperative, the 200-gr. Nosler Partition bullet is the only way to go.

Many years ago I tried the 250 Barnes in a 24" 1903 Springfield with H4831 (?). I think I got something like 2,150 fps.

I still have a few on my loading bench.


Okie John


I agree with this:

1. The 250gr Barnes originals are cool to have on the reloading bench.
2. If you really want something that penetrates and kills well, use a 200gr Nosler partitions.


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I loaded them warm in a 30-06 and shot a cow elk with one. I recovered the bullet, and it is in my collection of recovered bullets along with the wound specifics. Haven't thought about it for years. Will have dig it out and photograph it.

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