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I've been using my 223's for several seasons now on deer with several different bullets.
I've used TSX's, Sciroccos, Partitions, Power Points, Sierra Gamekings (55 & 65) and the Sierra 63 gr SMP.
I've noticed on broadside shots that the Sierras, Partition and Power Points kill much quicker with more internal damage.
What do you guys think are the TSX's and Sciroccos to tough for broadside shots? I've only killed three deer with the .223, and two deer with the .220 Swift, but if it was me, I'd pick the 70 grain Speer, or the 64grn Winchester, or the 60grn Partition and limit my shots to 200 yards and under, picking the one bullet I had had the best success with, and can still buy readily for handloading. Call it good and GO HUNT!
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Tiny bullets like the 223 shoots are not as humane as larger bullets nor even legal in many places for that reason.
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Tiny bullets like the 223 shoots are not as humane as larger bullets nor even legal in many places for that reason.
"Use Enough Gun" Shut your pie hole stupid. Can't you see nobody cares what your feeble excuse for a brain thinks....
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It's legal in at least 38 states but Don don't care about facts.
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'99 hitting a deer somewhere fifty years ago with a Sierra varmint bullet out of a 222, and then not recovering the deer left such an impression it won't let new information seep in.
Not that many years ago I wasn't interested in the 243 as a deer rifle. As a result I passed on a nicely priced NIB Browning Low Wall so chambered. D'oh!
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I wonder how many deer he would have to personally see fall via .223 before he would be a believer...
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If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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I've been using my 223's for several seasons now on deer with several different bullets.
I've used TSX's, Sciroccos, Partitions, Power Points, Sierra Gamekings (55 & 65) and the Sierra 63 gr SMP.
I've noticed on broadside shots that the Sierras, Partition and Power Points kill much quicker with more internal damage.
What do you guys think are the TSX's and Sciroccos to tough for broadside shots? I've only killed three deer with the .223, and two deer with the .220 Swift, but if it was me, I'd pick the 70 grain Speer, or the 64grn Winchester, or the 60grn Partition and limit my shots to 200 yards and under, picking the one bullet I had had the best success with, and can still buy readily for handloading. Call it good and GO HUNT! I like the one bullet concept but its not possible for the main part as I have rifles in several different twist rates. The best bullet in a 1-7 is not the best bullet in a 1-14. I just started the thread to see if others had noticed the same phenomenon I have that CNC bullets seem to kill quicker on broadside shots.
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LBP-I've been in and around taking of big game via various 22's for 3 decades or. IME the standard bullets will take the game down and out quicker no doubt about it.
The Preme's do very well also, but and this is picking nits but they don't take game out as quick as CNC's.
The 55 Horn w/c, 63 Sierra and the 52/55/60 NSB's all have a soft spot in my heart cause of the good hunts I've had with them.
Bottom line, pick your bullet, and get to hunting.
Hope alls well your way.
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LBP-I've been in and around taking of big game via various 22's for 3 decades or. IME the standard bullets will take the game down and out quicker no doubt about it.
The Preme's do very well also, but and this is picking nits but they don't take game out as quick as CNC's.
The 55 Horn w/c, 63 Sierra and the 52/55/60 NSB's all have a soft spot in my heart cause of the good hunts I've had with them.
Bottom line, pick your bullet, and get to hunting.
Hope alls well your way.
Dober Mark, I was hoping you would comment as I thought you had said before this was your experience as well. All is well here, I hope you and yours are doing fine too.
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The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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In regards to my above comment on different twist rates need different bullets the Sierra 63gr SMP works great in every twist.
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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Stunt shooters..... 
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Have I told anyone I have shot a piggie with a 223??? I hated the way it dropped in it's tracks, never would I do that again! 
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Stunt shooters..... You would know... 
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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.223 wont kill deer. For that you gotta have a .223AI.
I read it on the internet....
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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Have I told anyone I have shot a piggie with a 223??? I hated the way it dropped in it's tracks, never would I do that again! Be careful, you might become a stunt shooter...
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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.223 wont kill deer. For that you gotta have a .223AI.
I read it on the internet.... A .223 AI is a cannon, you know I might just want to eat these deer.
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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You're just afraid of the recoil, admit it.
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The ugly spectre of 'paralysis of choice' rears its ugly head... I was all set on using the 62 TSX this year in my .223 Ingwed, but now am having conflicting thoughts. 60 Partition, 75 Scirocco (I shoot 75 Amax's all the time), 63 Sierra? Sigh... What a nice conundrum to have, BTW. 
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Mojo, go 53TSX it's plenty!
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Mojo, go 53TSX it's plenty!
GreggH Yeah, I know, but I got the 8" twist so I feel obligated to go long and heavy! 
It ain't what you don't know that makes you an idiot...it's what you know for certain, that just ain't so...
Most people don't want to believe the truth~they want the truth to be what they believe.
Stupidity has no average...
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