Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Theologists, is the Earth only 6,000 years old? Can it only be that way?

Were the scientists responsible for this stuff looking backward, or forward?

What "agenda constraints" did they labor under?

I can't believe that some people are denying evolution because it conflicts with their literal interpretation of the bible.
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It's precisely what's happening, sad to say. I guess some think smart-assed quips, comments and one-liners appreciably hide the fact they're unable to engage in the debate on a sophisticated level.

So far,the scientists are seemingly in danger of having the game called because they are too far out front with the lead.

Perhaps someone could step up to the plate and argue a position which doesn't reek of "Oh yeah, you're a commie,dumbass,".

No wonder the polling is significantly moving towards the science/evolution side of the debate. Why can't Creationists admit common men simply got much of it wrong in their Biblical translations? I would think it's what a God would prefer if He in fact gave us the ability to learn and reason.

I can't imagine a God wanted folks to be limited to the intelligence of Neanderthals for all of mankind.

Is that similar to the "You're a knuckle-dragging retard" arguement?

You are showing your bias here. There are thousands of advanced degree scientists in those fields which accept the literal Bible creation account. If creation is correct then the people "back" then would make us moderns look like a group of retards playing in a sandbox discussing fairy tales.

Creation is correct. Creationism isn't, however.

So then you are agreeing that compared to God's original created man we are retarded?

This thread will be going till the end of time!!!!!!!

Btw does anyone know when that will be??????

Speak for yourself.

Although, I would bet the average IQ of European homo sapiens sapiens, fresh from surviving the Ice Age, was higher than that of your average civilized man today.

No one but our Father in heaven knows the day or hour. Best bet is to assume it's very soon, however.

Hawkeye,
You do know that statement was intended as pure raw sarcasm right?

For crying out loud, Counselor,there are a lot of us who don't believe in taking everything in the bible literally, most especially the Genesis account of Creation.

That sure doesn't automatically put us in the evolution/religion camp.

The idea of a Creation without a Creator offends my common sense more than my "religious sensibilities".

I can't comprehend much of the "proof" the evolutionists have offered on this thread.

Neither of us can comprehend a self existent being who can call THINGS into existence by the power of thought.

But I have APPREHENDED the God that neither of us can COMPREHEND.

And they haven't.

Don't be too quick to award them the trophy just on style points.

There's substance to be considered, also.

Not as the beginning of life. I have no issues with natural selection and genetic mutation, but the spark that begins life is not a spark at all but the evidence of a Creator. I believe most on this thread would agree that species vary to a degree based on their surroundings and genetics, but from goo-to-you-by-way-of-the-zoo, doesn't play is is truly laughable to any reasoned mind.

I don�t think so. Supporting evidence for the theory of evolution lies ready at hand.

Parallel universes lie a lot further away.

Fixed it.

So is evolution the same as adaptation......question is open for anyone....

If God did a billion years worth of changes to the universe while the little hand on my clock traversed the 12 twice, are the changes one day old or a billion?

Just askin.


If chaos theory prevents us from being able to predict outcomes, does that mean the Creator has limited our knowledge?

Just askin.

If all genetic changes were under the direct and immediate control of the Creator, how would we know it?

Once again, just askin.

Even better...... Science knows how life starts, but can it explain why it exists or where the life force comes from.......

Science has disected life down to the itty bittiest peices it can and so far the question why? still arises......

No

The pleasant talking guy of Oriental descent that shows up on the History Channel a lot, explaining complicated scientific theories - like the ones you mention - never tackles evolution theory. You might claim that he considers it such a settled matter that it doesn't need discussion, but I suspect the opposite is true.

As far as their being "supporting evidence for evolution theory ready at hand", there is SOME evidence supporting a charge of murder against you and me. I'm betting there are unsolved murder cases in a town near you.

There might even be enough evidence for an over-zealous prosecutor to make the charge.

But is there enough evidence to support a conviction?

When a poll forces people to choose between the Genesis account and the "scientific" account of creation, the "jury" chooses science.

But.... when people are not shackled to the Genesis account taken literally, but must choose between a Creator God and a Creation that has no power greater than human power, the "jury" overwhelmingly finds evolution theory to be a fraud.

Of course, most people avoid the hard choice and concoct up a private theory that "God used evolution to originate life".

Hum, I don't know. Common sense?

By what authority do you proclaim the Bible as literally God's spoken word? Were you there when God "spoke"? Did you take notes?