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![[Linked Image]](http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp311/patrickgsinclair/640002.jpg) I'm getting about 2 thou. runout on new, never fired cases, prepped to 6.5. This one has been fired once(loaded twice)and shows less than 1 thou. what dies are you using?? whats the runout on the bullet, thats where I always measure.
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With the number's being bantered about, I could see the 6.5 4S being a 'do-all' Western rifle for me...
I picked up a Montana 300 WSM at a very good price. Wonder if George and Co would screw a tube with a custom countour on one?
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I was hoping it was a Saturday shoot in Buffalo...  just got back from it.
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I'm getting about 2 thou. runout on new, never fired cases, prepped to 6.5. This one has been fired once(loaded twice)and shows less than 1 thou. what dies are you using?? whats the runout on the bullet, thats where I always measure. Redding comp dies, 7 SAUM with a .291 bushing. When the necks are 15 thou. after turning, the runout on the bullet/neck will be the same.
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Running the APA bottom metal using Accurate Mags 300WSM mag, with the front plate removed. It weighs in at 9lbs even, as pictured, with the Montana Sling on it. It is perfect weight and balance for a do all hunting/ LR shooting platform ! ![[Linked Image]](http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/Icebreaker_3_2017.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/Icebreaker_3_2015.jpg)
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That may very well be the perfect hunting rig
I love it
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Awesome rig, Scott. I like that sheep skull logo on the side too. Sorry I missed the shoot this year. Hopefully, next year things will work out that I can go. If you had had a decent spotter, perhaps you could have hit things at somewhat longer ranges... 
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that's a nice rig Scott.
i like the concept, and the scope you chose is in my estimation a very good match for a fairly handy field rifle--i like smaller objective bells in hunting rigs.
when you've shot for a few decades, it's nice to just keep riding the moa current to the end--you know, much like a carpenter not wanting to give up the good old one inch/one foot tape measuring system, in exchange for a metric measuring system--for the old and familiar is like sound and echo... I am an old carpenter... laffin' they keep trying to get me to go the Dark side, don't know if I can drink the Kool Aid 
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George and I will get you converted one way or another....if this old dog can do it, anyone can.
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You pay a premium for those projectiles, though. Thanks! Kind of what I'd seen A serious consideration since the rifles only cost 500 bucks and have 200 buck scopes on them. And considering you may only get one shot at your game. I'd certainly be worried about projectile cost. Might wanna check on fragmenting mono bullets for subsonic 300 whisper loads too if you are price checking...
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George and I will get you converted one way or another....if this old dog can do it, anyone can. Grin
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I'm getting 3175fps with 139 scenars. I could easily get 3250. The 3175 load shows zero pressure. Wow, those look like .264 WM numbers, gotta love the H1000.
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.7+ G1 for pointed JLKs.... holy smokes!! Not a whole lot of competition for that bullet at 3100fps.... I'm getting 3175fps with 139 scenars. I could easily get 3250. The 3175 load shows zero pressure. I'm necking down 7 SAUM brass(.291 bushing), trimming to 2.020", turning the necks to 15 thou, and using H1000. Tag..
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You pay a premium for those projectiles, though. Thanks! Kind of what I'd seen A serious consideration since the rifles only cost 500 bucks and have 200 buck scopes on them. And considering you may only get one shot at your game. I'd certainly be worried about projectile cost. Might wanna check on fragmenting mono bullets for subsonic 300 whisper loads too if you are price checking... It is a serious consideration for most of us... $0.46/lapua vs $0.28/amax ($0.20/ blems) adds up when the benefits are slim. I'll never have a ga precision but doesn't mean I can't piece something similar together. Thanks for your helpful input
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A serious consideration since the rifles only cost 500 bucks and have 200 buck scopes on them. And considering you may only get one shot at your game. I'd certainly be worried about projectile cost.
Might wanna check on fragmenting mono bullets for subsonic 300 whisper loads too if you are price checking... I get it rost, I really do. And these particular setup's cost more than most, so the higher cost of the consumables takes longer to become significant. I was specifically noting the cost of the JLK's, being as they are up to $55/100, which is impressively high for a 6.5 bullet. But if you can get .338 Lapua type drift numbers out of the system...
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did anyone notice bergers reloading manual non of their VLD offerings are loaded much beyond 3000 fps. well at least the offerings in 6mm 6.5 and 7mm which are all I care about anyways. I would be interested is this setup can shoot close to 3200 fps and give decent brass life. decent brass life for me would be 5 or more loadings so 6 total firings, which to most people this would be short brass life.
what brand of brass are you guys using?? I played with 2 different 264 win mags and could never get speed and accuracy together that I wanted. all I played with was VLD bullets, dreaming one day of half moa and a 140 class bullet running at or near 3200 fps. never got there and gave up after trying 8-10 powders and all the VLD bullet brands available.
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George and I will get you converted one way or another....if this old dog can do it, anyone can. That is the point, even publik skool grajuates can do mil/mil, which is exactly why the military is going in that direction. Troops who can't shoot get booted out of sniper school in the first few days typically, the rest who don't graduate can't do math.
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did anyone notice bergers reloading manual non of their VLD offerings are loaded much beyond 3000 fps. well at least the offerings in 6mm 6.5 and 7mm which are all I care about anyways. I would be interested is this setup can shoot close to 3200 fps and give decent brass life. decent brass life for me would be 5 or more loadings so 6 total firings, which to most people this would be short brass life.
what brand of brass are you guys using?? I played with 2 different 264 win mags and could never get speed and accuracy together that I wanted. all I played with was VLD bullets, dreaming one day of half moa and a 140 class bullet running at or near 3200 fps. never got there and gave up after trying 8-10 powders and all the VLD bullet brands available. Check out the "Re-tooled" post by scenarshooter on this forum. Here's an excerpt: No. Easy bolt lift, round primers, seven firings so far on one batch of 10 brass with the pockets holding up so far....I probably won't push too hard. There's no need to. It is already besting a 6.5-.284 by 100fps, with less pressure. Probably why Team GAP is getting 2500-3000 rounds out of their barrels before they quit shooting.
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