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I need to know what the book maximum load and speed for H4350 is, if anyone has the latest Barnes manual.
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.243 or .257 ? Cartridge? Barnes sez use TSX data but also lists TTSX data (at least for the 243). http://www.barnesbullets.com/
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If I remember right the Barnes #4 doesn't list a load for H4350 or IMR 4350 and 80 grain TTSXs. One day when I was playing with some RL-22 and 100 grain TSXs I worked up some 80s with the RL-22 and quit not far over 3600. This was with a long barreled gun with a pretty long throat. Were I going to shoot them and go looking for the best load for the 80s I would start with Varget, and look for about 3600-3650 for top end with somewhere between 47 and 48 grains of Varget. Inside 400 yards I would think they'd get Bambi's attention pretty good. I know 80/85 grain TSX/TTSXs out of .243s around 3200 will shred the insides to red soup at 150 or so, and can penetrate more than 30 inches of deer.
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Checked Load Data for you. Barnes does not list H-4350 for the 80gr TSX. This is from Barnes #3 75 Barnes Solid Hodgdon H-4350 51.0 3,296 75 Barnes Solid Hodgdon H-4350 55.0 3,555
90 Barnes XBT or Solid Hodgdon H-4350 48.5 3,141 90 Barnes XBT or Solid Hodgdon H-4350 52.5 3,400
From Barnes #4 80 Barnes TTSX BT Hodgdon H-4831sc 57.0 3396 80 Barnes TTSX BT Hodgdon H-4831sc 62.0 3656
80 Barnes TTSX BT Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 52.5 3532 80 Barnes TTSX BT Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 57.5 3814
Q/L shows you could go to 57.5 with H-4350 for 3592.
Hope it helps. Mike
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Varget is too fast. Barnes website says:
25-06 80 gr TTSX 62 gr H4831 SC 3556 24" or Hybrid 100V 57.5 3814 (both max)
If you have a l-o-n-g barrel like my 1890 WY Centenial 28" with the weird 1 in 13" twist, 7828 can really get it rolling. Speed Goats beware!
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I'm shooting a 22 inch barrel, I had it up to 56 grains @ 3492, but got ejector marks. Backed off to 55 grains @ 3443 ejector marks went away. Got a 3/4 group at 50 yards, but my glasses need changed and I might have flinched a little. that is only one 3 shot group so the jury is still out. I might have to look into that hybrid. Is that a ball powder?
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MIght try Ramshot Hunter. I'm giving it a go with the 80 TTSX in my 257 Roberts, anticipating the muzzle velocity will be about 3,400 fps with 22" barrel.
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H100V is stick powder, but finer than imr 4350 and RL 19.
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I know you are looking at 80 gr TTSX's.....but just an FYI, I shoot 100 gr TTSX's from my 25-06. I use 61.5gr Retumbo and it goes 3300fps and will group 5/8". Just an other option if your interested.
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I would rather shoot the 100's but my rifle has a slow twist.
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I know this is an old thread but just bought a 25-06 and I have some of these 80 grain TTSX on hand that I'd like to try in it. However, I don't have the newest edition of the Barnes manual with the ttsx load data. Anybody played around with these much in a 25-06 over the last couple of years and want to share some favorite loads? I have lots of IMR4350 and RL22 on hand but I also have a good many other different powders available including H4831sc which also seems to be a popular 25-06 powder.
Thanks in advance.
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From Barnes
25-06 Remington
Bullet Weight: 80 gr Case Trim Length: 2.484" S.D. 0.173 Bullet Style: TTSX BT Primer: Fed 210 B.C. 0.316 COAL: 3.090" Barrel Length: 24" Case: R-P Twist Rate: 1:10" Charge Velocity Charge Velocity Load Powder (grains) (fps) (grains) (fps) Density (%) RL 17 51.5 3488 56.5 3788 93 IMR 4350 53.5 3465 58.5 3797 100 Hunter 53.5 3478 58.5 3731 91 Hybrid 100V 52.5 3532 57.5 3814 101 +H4831SC 57.0 3396 62.0 3656 102 - most accurate IMR 4831 54.5 3432 59.5 3732 102
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