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Its history, in which President Obama presided over �exponential growth� in a program that candidate Obama criticized, shows how fundamentally surveillance law and practice have shifted away from individual suspicion in favor of systematic, mass collection techniques.

The PRISM program is not a dragnet, exactly. From inside a company�s data stream the NSA is capable of pulling out anything it likes, but under current rules the agency does not try to collect it all.
Analysts who use the system from a Web portal at Fort Meade key in �selectors,� or search terms, that are designed to produce at least 51 percent confidence in a target�s �foreignness.� That is not a very stringent test. Training materials obtained by the Post instruct new analysts to submit accidentally collected U.S. content for a quarterly report, �but it�s nothing to worry about.�

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Sounds like a good place to get a job. someone has to keep all this running...

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Originally Posted by bea175
I would love to read the records they have on the 24 hour Camp Fire .


That could explain the loss of VAnimrod here.........

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Originally Posted by logger
And yet they didn't have a clue about the Boston bombers. I guess they were too busy tracking all of those dangerous Tea Party types.


Or taking stoplight pictures of those dangerous seatbelt criminals.


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Originally Posted by logger
And yet they didn't have a clue about the Boston bombers. I guess they were too busy tracking all of those dangerous Tea Party types.


bingo. this.

the name of the saudi ALONE should have sent flags up. but, like the IRS, I would bet that the antennae were pointed in the wrong direction, worrying about "internal threats."


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Originally Posted by denton
To what extent did Obama's campaign mine our data to influence the election?


The same amount that the McCain and Mittster campaign did? Don't attempt to spin this into the reason the GOP lost the last 2 elections! This type of garbage flows equally into both parties.







NO, mostly to the party in power. They can keep that stuff away from the other side.


Read: Northwestalaska/Walt Wrong about Palin�Again�


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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????

SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."












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'Fascism�: Bob Beckel Explodes at Obama for �Deplorable� NSA Phone Records Grab
http://www.breitbart.com/breitbart-tv

Fox News� The Five co-host Bob Beckel:
�I think it is one of the most outrageous examples of the stepping on the Constitution I�ve heard. They have no right to the phone records� It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, and it is deplorable. I didn�t like it when they did it during the Bush administration and I don�t like when they�re doing it now.�

�They have taken this PATRIOT Act, which I think was the most dangerous act passed, and they have taken it and abused it,� Beck added. �You talk about fascism? You�re getting damn close to it."


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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????

SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."












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Originally Posted by Crockettnj
As long as it potentially saves one life, why not? I mean, if you have nothing to hide...


It seems to have contributed little to preventing recent debacles such as Benghazi, Sandy Hook, Fast & Furious, Eric Holder, Boston, etc. etc. etc. What one life has it saved?

Regardless, in theory I could agree with your thought IF I trusted government. I don't and never will. If the antics of Bush II and Obama make you comfortable, by all means, relax. If not, you're in good company. They have each used federal power against its citizens and excuse it by saying there is a higher priority than our rights. That is a pathetic position which neither protects the People or cures the problems we face these days. In short they were and are puzzy weak on foreign policy and lacking basic understanding of what is necessary to resolve the threats.

Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely. The dickweed in the Oval Office has demonstrated that succinctly.


I am..........disturbed.

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Nah. He was corrupt before being elected.


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It's the future that I'm worried about.

Let's just say that Prism, at this point in time, is being used exactly as intended with no abuses. The people that authorized and implemented it believe it's for the good of the people.

The problem is it's a freakin' Pandora's Box of horrors. The potential for abuse is so great that this a power that govt should never possess.

It's unconstitutional.

DD, you nailed it. Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.

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One other thing.

It will be interesting to see what the Supreme Court has to say about this.

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I don't know about you guys, but I get emails every day from people, in other countries, trying to pay me.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
I don't know about you guys, but I get emails every day from people, in other countries, trying to pay me.


Half up front and the other half when you complete your mission.

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All I have to do is send them a small fee to verify my commitment to the cause.


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Originally Posted by fish head
One other thing.

It will be interesting to see what the Supreme Court has to say about this.


They will fade and creep into the shadows just like they did on oberrycare. They know who signs the cheek. Even people in the SCOTUS get sick and have accidents.


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Hey guys this just came over the radio:

John has a grey mustache!
John has a grey mustache!

Wonder if they will figure out what it means?

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Hussein just said that every member of Congress has been briefed on this.

I don't know what to say.

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Originally Posted by fish head
Hussein just said that every member of Congress has been briefed on this.

I don't know what to say.


...and that is why I want to know who leaked this. My guess from the get-go was the Whitehouse. Obama needs Congress to be vilified...and fast.


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My guess is NSA leaked it to avoid what's facing them now. Those 2 new whistle-blowers who came out today wasn't a coincidence. Folks are beginning to realize schit is truly about to hit the fan.


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I sure hope you're right. I get tired of it sometime. smile


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