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Not to change the thread, but give some advice on what to do to take home a bull.


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My biggest mistake during my first decade of elk hunting was hunting elk like deer.

There weren't nearly as many elk when I started big game hunting in Montana almost 50 years ago, but there were a LOT of mule deer. Consequently I learned to hunt mule deer, including big ones, which is different than hunting elk.
In general, big mule deer live higher in the mountains than elk--as in almost right on top.

Did better on elk in the past two decades, partly because there are a lot more 'em!


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Originally Posted by Codave101
Trusting my mare to let me walk up behind her on the narrow trail to turn her around. this happened going in to camp 2012[Linked Image]


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Originally Posted by Adk_BackCountry
Not to change the thread, but give some advice on what to do to take home a bull.


Adk backcountry start with this absolute gem.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...s/3884941/The_Art_of_Hunting#Post3884941


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Not getting in good enough shape, especially after age 55.
Under-estimating the critter.
Hunting in popular places full of non-resident goofballs. No offense but Texans in Colorado can be a problem as a group.


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I also Bought to many cow tags. Saw a lot more legal bulls
than cows.

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After 25 years of guiding and hunting elk falling for client pressure and trying to cheat the wind when my gut is telling me to wait for the right conditions to get closer.

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Last year I simply didn't hunt high enough. It was warm, and while 10000 feet was high enough for me where I was the elk were 11-13K. Of course I didn't find that little tidbit of info until the season ended. I chose to hunt water, and that didn't work.

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My worst mistake, (although there have been many) is not rechecking the zero of my rifle after a fall. It ended up costing me a chance at a big mature bull elk. I fell in mid afternoon and my rifle banged pretty hard on the ground. Didnt want to fire a shot to check zero to risk spooking any elk in the area. The next morning I got up in the dark and decided to hunt in the morning and check zero during mid day back at camp. Well that morning I shot at the bull at approx 275 yards. Clean miss, no blood no nothing. Back at camp checking zero I found the gun shooting about a foot low at 50 yards.

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This will be my 55 season, chasing elk. I have made most of the above, some several times.

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For those of you not used to hunting ahorseback, check your zero on your rifle after a few days of carrying a rifle in a scabbard.


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Originally Posted by kass

#3 failing to realize that a mature bull can walk behind a thin tree and never come out the other side


I've had that happen several Xs with whitetail. Haven't had the PRIVILEGE to hunt elk YET. I'm waiting AGAIN this year and hope to be drawn.

I'm SURE I'll make mistakes, especially since it'll be my first X. I plan to DO MY BEST to BE PREPARED.


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Biggest mistake when Elk hunting??? Easy....many years ago I went to Colorado on an Elk trip with my father and my wife (now Ex) and all 3 of us applied for a Cow tag hoping one of us would draw. Wouldn't you know it, that was the year the CDOW decided to open the floodgates and give out a bazillion Cow tags! All three of us drew one.

First day of the hunt, near a famous park in North Central Colorado, I was setting on this bench at first light listening to the late bugling bulls and they were close!

Ten minutes later, I see antlers bobbing along as a HUGE 6x7 herd bull fed up over the bench right towards me! shocked

At 15 yards he stops and stares at me while I peek at him under my boony hat brim so he can't see my eyes. We begin a 5 minute staring contest as I had my hand on my .44 in the shoulder holster, my .300 win mag was leaning against the tree next to me.....

Eventually he turned and worked his way back down the bench and about ten minutes later I took one of his girlfriends as they crossed the bench down below me.

He was massive and was slightly palmated on his right top....amazingly beautiful!
You have no idea how many times during the rest of my life, I wish I had had a bull tag instead of that durn Cow tag!!!! grin

Easily the biggest Bull I've ever seen in the wild....


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Tracked a single bull in the slushy snow while sick for a couple days, then developed full-blown flu. Made it out of bed and hiked around the same hilltop he'd been feeding on for three nights but could not locate his bedding. I found him day 3, on my way to the comfort of camp for a final crash. My head was down and I was crawling back in defeat. If I had remained diligent for 5 more minutes I would have clearly seen him bedded below me at 75 yards in the old growth, wind in my face, him looking the other way.

Another time I tracked a bull into a thicket, circled it almost completely at 50 yards out, taking an hour, cow calling and pulling grass to pull him to the edge where I could see him. As I nearly completed the circle I figured my scent would be going in there any second, and no bull, so I must have missed his tracks emerging from the thicket. He exploded at 20 yards when I took the toilet paper from my pack. Why would he get out of bed right after daylight when those cows could obviously smell him since they went downwind right?

Carried 1/2 a 5 point 1 mile to the truck while my partners split the other half.

Missed a herd bull at 6 feet with a bow after a 7 hour wait.

Hunted a big mature bull at a spring but he never showed while I was there. Four years later I found his bed on a knob directly downwind of the spring. Countless hours spent educating that bull.

I quit elk hunting, I'm too stupid for the sport.





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It was the first rifle hunt in Colorado. I was hunting with a new rifle, a Weatherby Mk. V stainless synthetic in .375 H&H that I had acquired for a trip to Africa scheduled for the following September. I was anxious to blood the rifle and see how the 260 AccuBonds would perform on elk-sized game. Opening morning, I slipped up on a small spring concealed in a canyon that I had found the year before. There was no sign that a hunter had ever been in there and I was certainly the first one that year. I picked a spot where I could see both slopes and sat down to glass.

Within about two minutes, I saw a decent 6x6 bull working his way along a trail across the canyon. If he stayed on the trail, he was going to pass about 150 yards from me on the far side. Based on past experience hunting this ranch, I figured that he was about as good a bull as I was likely to see. When he was just about opposite me, I shot him behind the shoulder. He stopped walking. I quickly slicked another round in the chamber and shot again, hitting about two inches away from the first shot, as it turned out. He took about two staggering steps backward, then reared up and fell over on his back, burying his top forks in the dirt.

I spent the next morning helping a buddy hunt another canyon. That afternoon, I decided to take a small camp chair and my spotting scope and binocular and return to that spring to see what might come into as it got later in the day. I got set up a little higher on the slope on an old abandoned road that was grown up with brush and trees that provided a flat spot to put my chair.

As the sun went down behind the mountain to the west, I had seen nothing but a bear that came to the spring to drink and splash around. I was thinking about pulling out so that I could make the trip back to camp before dark. As I reached down for the case for my spotting scope, I saw a cow elk standing to my left about 60 yards away on the old road bed. Almost simultaneously, a bull bugled so close that it was all that I could do not to jump out of my chair. I slowly raised my binocular and saw that there were about 20-25 cows and calves strung out along the trail.

The bull bugled again and stepped out from behind the lead cow. He was a huge 6x7 with incredible mass. He bugled again and again, and each time he did the long terminal forks of his antlers laid along side his back almost to the base of his tail.

I couldn't believe it. Here I was 67 yards from the bull of a lifetime in an open season without a rifle or a tag! I know that he was 67 yards, because the elk lingered for five or six minutes, as though taunting me. For lack of anything better to do I pulled my rangefinder out of my pocket and ranged him. Finally, the lead cow decided to move on off, leading the group up slope and and through a little saddle into the thick conifers above. As they moved off, I could still hear him bugling as the light faded.

Not exactly a mistake, but if I had to do it over again, I like to think that I would do it differently...


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Originally Posted by mudhen
It was the first rifle hunt in Colorado. I was hunting with a new rifle, a Weatherby Mk. V stainless synthetic in .375 H&H that I had acquired for a trip to Africa scheduled for the following September. I was anxious to blood the rifle and see how the 260 AccuBonds would perform on elk-sized game. Opening morning, I slipped up on a small spring concealed in a canyon that I had found the year before. There was no sign that a hunter had ever been in there and I was certainly the first one that year. I picked a spot where I could see both slopes and sat down to glass.

Within about two minutes, I saw a decent 6x6 bull working his way along a trail across the canyon. If he stayed on the trail, he was going to pass about 150 yards from me on the far side. Based on past experience hunting this ranch, I figured that he was about as good a bull as I was likely to see. When he was just about opposite me, I shot him behind the shoulder. He stopped walking. I quickly slicked another round in the chamber and shot again, hitting about two inches away from the first shot, as it turned out. He took about two staggering steps backward, then reared up and fell over on his back, burying his top forks in the dirt.

I spent the next morning helping a buddy hunt another canyon. That afternoon, I decided to take a small camp chair and my spotting scope and binocular and return to that spring to see what might come into as it got later in the day. I got set up a little higher on the slope on an old abandoned road that was grown up with brush and trees that provided a flat spot to put my chair.

As the sun went down behind the mountain to the west, I had seen nothing but a bear that came to the spring to drink and splash around. I was thinking about pulling out so that I could make the trip back to camp before dark. As I reached down for the case for my spotting scope, I saw a cow elk standing to my left about 60 yards away on the old road bed. Almost simultaneously, a bull bugled so close that it was all that I could do not to jump out of my chair. I slowly raised my binocular and saw that there were about 20-25 cows and calves strung out along the trail.

The bull bugled again and stepped out from behind the lead cow. He was a huge 6x7 with incredible mass. He bugled again and again, and each time he did the long terminal forks of his antlers laid along side his back almost to the base of his tail.

I couldn't believe it. Here I was 67 yards from the bull of a lifetime in an open season without a rifle or a tag! I know that he was 67 yards, because the elk lingered for five or six minutes, as though taunting me. For lack of anything better to do I pulled my rangefinder out of my pocket and ranged him. Finally, the lead cow decided to move on off, leading the group up slope and and through a little saddle into the thick conifers above. As they moved off, I could still hear him bugling as the light faded.

Not exactly a mistake, but if I had to do it over again, I like to think that I would do it differently...


Obviously, he knew when you were unarmed. Elk are pretty smart tht way!

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Can't beleive nobody mentioned it but maybe I'm just a chitty shot. smile

After being shot and bleeding but able to run off, I made the "mistake" of a life time on the biggest bull I'd ever tried to kill. I did NOT give the critter time to bed and stiffen up or bleed out. I gave him about 10 minutes and that 3 legged bull kicked my ass. I jumped him from the creek bottom where he laid down only about 300yds from where he was shot. Had I waited 45 min to an hour I'd have killed him in that bed or he quite possibly he'd have died all by himself.

Had I had my .260 rem instead of a 300 win mag which I didnt shoot well [bleep] woulda dropped like a sack of taters.

Long story short I used to much gun and took to tracking "way" to quick. Lesson learned! smile


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