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Hope that guy hasn't left for good- He is a storehouse of knowledge and experience.

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I think he is busy with his sons playing ball and living life. I like to think he will return with good things when time allows.


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Originally Posted by davidlea
I like to think he will return with good things when time allows.


I doubt that he will be able to.....he may be gone for a while.


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Seriously sad news to hear Pat might not be back. It's now a pretty long list of great folks that are no longer posting here anymore.

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Originally Posted by oldslowdog
Originally Posted by davidlea
I like to think he will return with good things when time allows.


I doubt that he will be able to.....he may be gone for a while.



I am seriously out of the loop, any chance someone could fill me in? If he is gone from the 'fire (and I hope that's what you mean) I will miss his posts very much.


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It will be a real shame if a bunch of idiots have run Pat off.


I hope this is not the case.


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I don't think the idiots screwed with Pat much- On the rare occasion that they did, he seemed to brush them off with impunity.

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I would like to know what Oldslowdog meant.

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I would too, he is a very experienced, knowledgeable guy with a lot of realtime in the mountains, even, I understand, guided in Canada's northern territories?

I may be in error about that as I would think that it is against the "regs" for foreign nationals to guide in those Canadian jurisdictions, just as it is here in BC.

But, he certainly knows his stuff and I find his input very useful and hope he is OK and just taking a "time out".

On that note, does anyone know where "Dober" and also "Brad" have gone, I have not seen a post by either of those two gentlemen for a couple of months?

It is a bloody shame when a few, self-aggrandizing and/or obviously emotionally disturbed persons here can/do make the entire site so "toxic" that some of the best members decide to leave.

One of my closest friends, a fine shot, very capable rifle builder and a guy with a LOT of BC-Canada, bush experience, decided last year that he was so tired of the never-ending personal attacks that he would no longer participate here and this is a REAL LOSS to all of us who enjoy most of what Rick kindly provides.

I just hope that "Scenar" has not made the same decision.

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Sometime I think we all really need a vacation from the campfire...

Sure changed a lot since I first joined in 2004...

Pat and Dober were definitely Two Very Fine Gentlemen....

Then of course the types that chase them away, are the same ones that use the excuse that if you don't put up with their key board antics, then you aren't "macho" enough, and start doing all the 'homo/gay' references and accusations... like one of our argumentative residents in Alaska....

some of us can put up with it longer than others can... some move on, some just put people on ignore..

the only cost is the loss of fine folks like Pat and Dober...

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Yup, I agree, I think that many of the best members DO move on and do not return and that is a loss for all here.

After awhile, even the "ignore" function does not really prevent the sort of infantile and seemingly deranged antics that some engage in here and the only alternative seems to be to just leave.

I notice that "BCBrian" has gone and several others of the sort of men I enjoy bantering and learning with are also either gone or very seldom post now.

I sometimes read "AR" as there are guys there, like Duane Weibe, who do not come here and I have noticed much the same situation there as it seems to be far less active and is just the "same old, same old" gang repeating the same stuff, "ad infinitum".

Well, that's me, again, hope all is well with "Scenar".


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Originally Posted by Royce
I would like to know what Oldslowdog meant.


I just meant that I don't think he will be posting for a while.

I had PM'ed him a while ago and he described a situation that precluded him from posting on here.

While I think it is a HUGE loss for the Campfire, I can completely understand his decision.

Beyond that, I'm sure he would prefer us not discussing his personal business on a public forum.

I know I'll miss seeing him on here daily. I always looked forward to seeing his pictures and reading his posts.However, I think he's making the right decision.


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One of the most experienced, knowledgeable and skilled hunters on this or any other message board out there and a damn fine man to boot.

I'll miss you Pat.

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Dang, sure hate to read this... A guy can learn a lot from him and he really came across as a respectable and fine gentleman.

Too many of those type guys leaving recently.

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Whatever the reasons its a damned shame great guys like Pat, Steve Timm, and Dober have been run off by idiots and trolls. mad


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This is sad news...Pat, Dober, and the others were great sources of valuable information..Anyone know where Pat is posting now..I hate to loose contact with such a great shooter...


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Hey, thanks for the help...appreciate it ...


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I have a hunch members didn't run Pat off.

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Originally Posted by Salmonella
One of the most experienced, knowledgeable and skilled hunters on this or any other message board out there and a damn fine man to boot.

I'll miss you Pat.


Yep the real deal.

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