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Originally Posted by grovey
Why not a 6mm rem ?


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What is the skinny on the scope if I might ask?


The SS series from SWFA is a marvelous piece of glass for sub $400. They track well, are reliable as hell, and tough as nails..... they should be, they weigh a metric ton. I've owned several, and never had an issue with any of them.


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Crow, chucks, and varmints...hummmm bullet needs to expand on impact.

To 600 yards, I would go a 6mm Rem AI, shoot the 75g V max at 3800 to 3900. If the varmints ain't a fly'en, I am not to interested.

Lots of bullets just zip right through a chuck and they just crawl or run off.

You need a flat shooting round...period.

800 yards on varmints is not like 800 yards on a steel plate.

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Well guys lots of great advice and suggestions here. It gives me much to think about. Really good suggestions on the glass.

One more question for you guys are there any good bullet choices for the 6.5 that will open up at those ranges and make crow confetti? I really like the 260 Remington and was considering that for a caliber choice.

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I've got to think the 123 A-Max would work well in that regard.

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Originally Posted by Tanner
I've got to think the 123 A-Max would work well in that regard.


We're gonna find out here in a couple weeks....


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What's that build gonna' look like?

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aalf's 23" Rock #4 fluted (.260 Rem.... might punch it, haven't decided)
old HSP sporter stock (ADL, Pawnee-flauged of course)
Sucks Stainless (printed)
Talley Lows
Leup. 3-9x40 w/TTs (might slap one of the Mark ARs on it... I do love the 1/2 MOA adjustments)

Got a few boxes of Lapua brass, 130 Bergs, and 123 AMs on the way.

Should be done just about the time you hit Ft. Collins. I'm thinking it will be an awesome rifle golf stick.


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Sounds awesome dude. We will have to play a round or two....grin

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Course is set up about 40 min north east of Ft. Collins.... if you don't stop to shoot a few PDs... or a coyote... or glass pronghorn/whitetail/Miley bucks. I bet we shoot more than a few rounds this fall...


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Originally Posted by keith
Crow, chucks, and varmints...hummmm bullet needs to expand on impact.

If the varmints ain't a fly'en, I am not to interested.

Lots of bullets just zip right through a chuck and they just crawl or run off.

800 yards on varmints is not like 800 yards on a steel plate.


Yes, explosive hits from varmint bullets can matter more then burning extra gas to push the heavies. In 6MM try the 62gr Varmint Grenades, 70gr TNTs, and 87gr V-Max. The heaviest 6MM V-Max is the 87V-Max and it's awesome in the 243WIN. About good as it gets before leaving the mist for 105s.

The OP wants to build off of a 308 bolt face and might want to consider the 6XC with 87 V-Max and 105 A-Max. Brass is easy. Just open bag and load.

A long range varmint thumper I'm building later this year is a heavy chunk 7-08AI. (I have an 8 twist Rock 1.200" cylinder on order) smile
Lots of 7MM varmint bullets too like the Sierra 100gr VHPs, Speer 110gr TNTs, Speer 115 VHPs, Hornady 120gr VHPs, Hornady 120gr V-Max. The 120 V-Max should be wild on squirrels. We gonna love 110 TNTs and 162 A-Max's. Also I'll see if it can push 175s with it's AI engine...This rig should shoot almost everything and with longer barrel life too.



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Originally Posted by Tanner
Sounds like the perfect place for a 243 AI! I love mine and I think anybody who is looking to shoot LR dogs would appreciate the round very much.


what he said.......


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Nice rifle that have been uploaded to it. Be sure that it will fulfill your purpose. Because I don't think so that it'll. Thumpston 300, Hybrid 100 can also be used for this purpose, if you are interested then I'll do more for it.

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Originally Posted by Lilly
Nice rifle that have been uploaded to it. Be sure that it will fulfill your purpose. Because I don't think so that it'll. Thumpston 300, Hybrid 100 can also be used for this purpose, if you are interested then I'll do more for it.


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Lots of good suggestions here. I shoot a 7 mag, but intended range is double what you posted. Here's the interesting part, I'm shooting the Berger 180 gr hunting VLD, and getting amazing results even beyond 1100 yards. Those bullets are still expanding well and just ruin a rock chuck.
After a lot of research, I would consider the 6XC using the Berger hunting VLD.
A guy I shoot with at our local long range matches is shooting a 260, and that has proven to be very effective to 800 yards, the extent of our range.

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260 -or- 6.5 Creed.


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6XC...8 twist (6mm/250)

260.......8 twist

260 AI


T R U M P W O N !

U L T R A M A G A !

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6.5x47 Lapua 1-8 twisted with 123g AMAX.
Rifle weigh to suit you..
Easy to tune.
Great brass.
Long barrel life.
Enough punch to get to 1k.
The AMAX will turn stuff inside out.
Would not touch a Leupold with a 10 foot pole.
Lots of used Nightforces around for low $.
Do yourself a favor and get a real scope, not an excuse...

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Good scope comments Dave. You can't shoot long with a half-ass scope, and that includes some with well known names and big price tags. My Schmidt Bender and Nightforce have been the only two brands I have used that I could count on being right.
Now... back to the topic

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Originally Posted by dave7mm

Would not touch a Leupold with a 10 foot pole.


Great scopes if you shoot 10 shots a year and stay away from the windage and elevation adjustments. whistle

PS, Ackleys are for the birds.

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Originally Posted by Trappererick
I am branching out into some long range hunting for crows, chucks, and coyotes. My ranges will be legit shots out to 800 yards with most between 400-600. The gun will be built on a short action 308 bolt face so that is where it must start.

I need help coming up with a caliber and scope. My thoughts were maybe a 6.5 Creedmore, 250 Savage AI, or maybe even a straight 308. As for glass I need something that won't cost more than my house payment and be simple and tough.

Give me some ideas.


6XC brass is still available.


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