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What would be the ideal bullet weight for this twist? I have run some weights through some formulas and was wondering what other people got.


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For long range shooting heavier is better. In the weight range I want to shoot, I select the bullet with best BC that shoots well in my rifle.

A 9" twist should stabilize any of the 175's out there, and will even stabilize Berger's 180 VLD.

this year I am running 154's in mine because max range won't be much more than 200 yds. Next year I will work up some loads with heavier bullets.

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That's what I figured. I want to target shoot with 175gr Accubond LR's, Hunt deer and varmints with 120gr BT, elk with 140gr Berger VLD or 150gr Accubond LR.


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Or you could just shoot everything with one bullet like the 175 or 150 ABLR. Or 168 Berger.

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My favorite bullet in my 280 AI is the Speer Hot Core 160 gr , which has the 1&9 twist


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I have the 168gr VLD, I have no doubt it would accomplish everything I want it too, but I don't want to shoot deer with a 168gr bullet.


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Thanks for all the replies.


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I have a 9 twist and truthfully it likes em all smile

Long ago Dober recommended; 150 gr. NBT and it has worked for everything.

the 175's would be nice play fodder, but the 150 BT's kill chit.

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Thanks Randy, I'm just trying to decide between 140gr Bergers, 150gr Accubond LR.


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My 280AI with 1:9 loves the 168 Berger VLD amazing accuracy and hard on mule deer

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Originally Posted by DBLTAP
My 280AI with 1:9 loves the 168 Berger VLD amazing accuracy and hard on mule deer


Did the Berger perform as advertised? Meaning did it drop on contact?


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My 1/9" twist shoots superb with everything I've tried from 120gr through 175 with definite love for the 162 AMax and 140 TTSX.

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Theoretically it should shoot the heavier bullets better but you won't know until you shoot them, other factors come into play and it might show a marked preference for one bullet over others. I'd pick a bullet that had the performance I wanted and if it shot "good enough" then I'd use it. Accuracy is great, but none of that matters if the bullet won't perform the way it needs to. You read on these forums about guys shooting matchking or Amax target bullets over a real hunting bullet at game because they give them a .2 MOA tighter group, that's just stupid in my opinion. There are enough well constructed hunting bullets out there that you can always find one that will shoot good enough if the rifle's up to the task. There's no reason to go flinging target bullets at live animals.

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Originally Posted by Jcub
Originally Posted by DBLTAP
My 280AI with 1:9 loves the 168 Berger VLD amazing accuracy and hard on mule deer


Did the Berger perform as advertised? Meaning did it drop on contact?


Many things drop on contact with those Bergers in my experience and a 168 Hybrid would be the first thing I would try in your rig.

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I had a couple of .280s made for me by Delta Gunshop and Clearwater Re-boring (Cliff LaBounty's old outfit) and specified 1-9" twists for both. I've never regretted it.


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My 280AI loves both the 140gr TTSX and the 168 Berger VLD's and it is 1 in 9 twist.


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Originally Posted by Tanner
Or you could just shoot everything with one bullet like the 175 or 150 ABLR. Or 168 Berger.


There you go. That's how I would do it..

Just my 2 cents


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The 168LRAB and some H4831SC might be a good match for your rifle !

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I appreciate all the replies gentleman. I have 6 ladder tests I will be doing this weekend, included are IMR 4831 with Fed210, and CCI LRM Primers, both have 168gr Berger VLD. IMR 7828 ssc with Fed210 and CCI LRM Primers, both have 168gr Berger VLD. Varget with Fed210 and CCI LRM primers, both have 120 BT.


Will also include H414 with CCI LRM Primers and 120gr BT.


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Originally Posted by Tanner
Or you could just shoot everything with one bullet like the 175 or 150 ABLR. Or 168 Berger.


I like the look of the 150 ABLR on paper. All the BC I need and extra velocity over similar BC bullets that are heavier. Will load some up for mine once pronghorn season is done.



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