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My favorite upland game gun is my Sauer drilling with it's 24" barrels!

The 20 ga Ugar. has 24" bbls. The Bernadelli's are long at 27.5".

I like them all.


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What is the best type of non-toxic shot available to run through an older double? I have an Elsie and am looking at maybe a Sauer drilling to use at the lease. We always have a few ducks in on our tanks late in the season.


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Every Crescent I've seen around has been shot loose. They certainly do wear out. Same for the Savage 311s that I've come across recently.

I'd vote the newer CZ models with the crossbolt for a well-proportioned gun that will stay tight for a lot of shooting.

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If you handload, Ballistic Products ITX Original shot is excellent non-toxic shot for older doubles. If not, Kent Tungsten Matrix is good but really pricey--and Bismuth shot is back again in ammo made by the Spanish company Rio. It's also pretty pricey.


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I bought a very nice Miroku 20ga side by side (not Charles Daly marked) with dual triggers choked full and improved cylinder for $300 a few years back. Deals are out there to be had. The store had it marked low because, according to them, nobody wanted a shotgun with two triggers and extractors.

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Which is one reason that combination is my favorite. Though I also find two triggers and extractors generally more desirable in the field. Two triggers provide an instantaneous choice of barrel/choke, which can be handy in some hunting, and extractors are somewhat handier for those of us who bring back all our empties, for whatever reason.


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I appreciate the utility of ejectors on a double, but I doubt I'll ever own one so equipped unless I get a ridiculous deal on a desirable gun. For hunting, I'm going to be taking my empties home with me so less time hunched over looking in the tall-grass for the hulls is a good thing. For high volume shooting (if I ever get a chance to do so; haven't yet) where speed of reloading is a factor, I'd likely get a Benelli semi-auto and call it good.


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Originally Posted by Oregon45
I bought a very nice Miroku 20ga side by side (not Charles Daly marked) with dual triggers choked full and improved cylinder for $300 a few years back. Deals are out there to be had. The store had it marked low because, according to them, nobody wanted a shotgun with two triggers and extractors.


I have one of the same Miroku Double SXS shotguns , like new, but in 12 ga.


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Originally Posted by bea175
Originally Posted by Oregon45
I bought a very nice Miroku 20ga side by side (not Charles Daly marked) with dual triggers choked full and improved cylinder for $300 a few years back. Deals are out there to be had. The store had it marked low because, according to them, nobody wanted a shotgun with two triggers and extractors.


I have one of the same Miroku Double SXS shotguns , like new, but in 12 ga.


bought a 12 ga model off of the fire here just a couple months ago to be used as a gift for my son who is finishing up his Eagle Scout rank. made a dandy gift!


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Which is one reason that combination is my favorite. Though I also find two triggers and extractors generally more desirable in the field. Two triggers provide an instantaneous choice of barrel/choke, which can be handy in some hunting, and extractors are somewhat handier for those of us who bring back all our empties, for whatever reason.

Exactly.

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Passed an SKB in a rack about 10 years back. Price was right but I already had an early Fox w 30 inch tubes that I liked very much.
Bought a Churchill 10 ga 32 inch after not buying a Stoger Zypher I looked at about 9 times. No comparing the two. But I do love wacking a goose with that blaster now and then in the corn. I read way too many Sherman Bell articles on the big ten and just feel the need to load for one cause I can.
Close friend has his grandfathers Stevens. It came down thru the inlaws side of his family. We call it the cloud duster after his granddad and it gets an annual hunt for the memories.
Taking out any of these and breaking a clay target or twenty always gets a conversation going. Much more so than any OU I own.
Enjoy your choice.


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