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H4350 will get you the speed, but I'd also consider Hunter and N160 or N560


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The 30-06 case is an incinerator for gunpowder. Lots of different powders burn very efficiently in that case.


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150 grain bullet with 55 grains of IMR 4230
180 grainer 50.5 grains of IMR 4064
220...56 grains of IMR 4831

Per Jack O'Connors loads from his book "The Hunting Rifle".


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Originally Posted by pennsyhunter
150 grain bullet with 55 grains of IMR 4230
180 grainer 50.5 grains of IMR 4064
220...56 grains of IMR 4831

Per Jack O'Connors loads from his book "The Hunting Rifle".


Don't you mean 4320 instead of 4230?

Also, IMR-4831 was not available in 1965, when O'Connor's book was published, so I'm pretty sure he was using 56 grains of H 4831 with the 220 grain bullet.


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Originally Posted by Jocko_Slugshot
Originally Posted by pennsyhunter
150 grain bullet with 55 grains of IMR 4230
180 grainer 50.5 grains of IMR 4064
220...56 grains of IMR 4831

Per Jack O'Connors loads from his book "The Hunting Rifle".


Don't you mean 4320 instead of 4230?

Also, IMR-4831 was not available in 1965, when O'Connor's book was published, so I'm pretty sure he was using 56 grains of H 4831 with the 220 grain bullet.


Probably O'Conner was using surplus 4831 back then when it was 50 cents a pound like the rest of us.


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Originally Posted by saddlesore
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Originally Posted by pennsyhunter
150 grain bullet with 55 grains of IMR 4230
180 grainer 50.5 grains of IMR 4064
220...56 grains of IMR 4831

Per Jack O'Connors loads from his book "The Hunting Rifle".


Don't you mean 4320 instead of 4230?

Also, IMR-4831 was not available in 1965, when O'Connor's book was published, so I'm pretty sure he was using 56 grains of H 4831 with the 220 grain bullet.


Probably O'Conner was using surplus 4831 back then when it was 50 cents a pound like the rest of us.


Correct. When I wrote H 4831, I meant the surplus powder that Bruce Hodgdon was buying in bulk and re-packaging.

I believe IMR-4831 wasn't available until around 1973.


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H-4350 & a 165 are 180 gr. bullet

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Like a few others, I love 52 gr IMR-4064 and a 150 gr bullet - most recently a 150 gr BT has been my choice for deer. A partition, bonded bullet or TSX in that weight are also good for hogs. In the '06, I go up to a 165 gr for elk, but have used 180 gr Interlocks and Partitions, too.

The 150 gr Sierra or BT and 52 gr IMR 4064 has been accurate in every rifle I've tired it in, though. It is right at or just below 3000 FPS from a 24-inch barrel.


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58 gr of Ramshot Hunter with a 180 Nosler partition
Winchester brass and Winchester primer seated .010 off lands of my Kimber 84L.
Shoots 3/4"
Shy of 2800 fps
Just returned from Africa with this combo where it worked perfectly.

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Originally Posted by hunterjrg
58 gr of Ramshot Hunter with a 180 Nosler partition
Winchester brass and Winchester primer seated .010 off lands of my Kimber 84L.
Shoots 3/4"
Shy of 2800 fps
Just returned from Africa with this combo where it worked perfectly.


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I've settled on 53.8gr of RL-17 with a 200gr AccuBond and Federal match primer, gets 2725fps out of a 22 7/16th" barrel.
I have shot 19" 3 shot ( first three shots vary 8 fps) and 29" 5 shot groups at 1050yds off sand bags with the ( Leupold 3.5x10x40 VXIII ) elevation maxed minus 2 clicks and using the point of the lower dual X post as an aim point. Rifle is stock Sako M85 Finnlight 7.5 lbs ready to shoot.

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I have been loading 50 grains IMR 4064 with a 150 grain Sierra Gameking this summer. What kind of velocity loss could result in say 30 degree temps when hunting this fall?

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Probably not much, if any, significant loss at 30 degrees F.
If it bothers you, Varget or Ramshot's Big Game make a good substitute. E

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Originally Posted by LightsOutSix
Anyone using H414? I'm loading a few 150's with it, starting at 54 grains toward a max of 60 according to Hodgdon data. What kind of velocity can I expect with a 24" barrel?


My Featherweight Model 70 loves 62 grains with the 150 grainers for 3080fps and top accuracy.

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It's my understanding H414's the same as W760. I had a Model 70, 30-06 push feed Sporter with a 24" barrel. It shot well at just a little over 3K fps with 60.5 grs. of 760 and 150 Ballistic Tips.

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I use 168 TSXs in my Tikka M65 30-06 with 57.0 grains of H414. Very accurate -- about 3/4" at 100 yards, and kills game very well. Never tried it with 150's. My S-I-L says he is using 150 Hornady BTSP with H414, and getting good results as well. I like the powder. It meters very consistently.


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168 NBT, WLRM, 61.5 gr Ramshot Hunter, approx 2875 fps, VERY sub-MOA.

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Good shooting.


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Question you guys shooting imr4350 my Lyman book shows for 165 max charge 57 grains and some of you are over that is there other load books stating different max?


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57 is a good safe load in any of the '06s I have loaded for. Back in the day, the Speer #8 manual listed 59 grains as max, and I used to shoot 58.5 of IMR4350. 57 works well, though. The Hodgdon load site shows a starting load of 52 gr of IMR4350 and a maximum load of 56.6 grains for a velocity of 2770. Pretty tame, really. And then there is this one

165 GR. SIE SPBT IMR IMR 4350 .308" 3.300" 56.0 2746 48,100 PSI 60.0C 2934 57,600 PSI

That one may be a little rich for my blood. wink

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